Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 1997/12/03

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Subject: Re: [Leica] M3's & Stuff
From: Alfred Breull <puma@hannover.sgh-net.de>
Date: Wed, 3 Dec 1997 10:11:27 +0100

David,

I include a comparison between the prices according to the current
International Price Guide, and German prices.

Alf

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At 16:07 02.12.1997, David wrote:
>[Lot 2]  135 Hektor s/n 1561979.  Good user - many minor marks. well used.
>Good glass.  w/caps and shade.

The current International Price Guide (IPG) says USD 100. They sell in 
Germany for DM 600 to DM 800, about USD 350 to 470.

>[Lot 3] 35mm Sumaron s/m 1179926 w/finder.  Good user - same as Hektor.
>Finder appears to be in great shape.  Glass as new.

finder ? Do you mean the goggles (for use with the M3) ?

3.5/ 35 Summaron (M3), IPG: USD 300, Germany DM 750 (USD 440).
2.8/ 35 Summaron (M3), IPG: USD 400, Germany DM 750 (USD 440).

The M2 Summarons (without goggles) rate USD 100 higher/ more.

>[Lot 4] 90mm Collapsible Elmar s/n 1260404  Good user - as Hektor but no
>shade.  No visible scratches on glass.

IPG: USD 400, Germany: not seen during the last 25 years.


>[Lot 5] 85mm Summarex s/n 1151062 w/shade and leather case.  Very fine
>condition. 

There are 3 different versions.
1.5/ 85 Summarex, black, IPG: USD 4.000.
1.5/ 85 Summarex, black, with hood & caps, IPG: USD 5.000.
1.5/ 85 Summarex, chrome, IPG: USD 1.250.
        chrome with hood and caps, IPG: USD 1.500.

The IPG prices are for "used" condition (C). Ex++ to mint minus =
_plus_ 50 to 100 percent.

>[Lot 7] M3 DS  s/n 856401 - very little brassing, but many scratches on
>bottom plate.  w/Meter MC, which appears to work.  Missing vulcanite near
>frame lever - about 1/8" inch square. Shutter sounds OK. Viewfinder bright.
> W/Summicron s/n 2593297 - which appears fine, but has some oil on diaphram
>blades.

M3, DS, IPG: USD 750, Germany DM 1.500, about USD 880.
Summicron (1973), chrome, IPG: USD 500 to USD 650 (different versions),
    Germany: between DM 600 and DM 1.100 (USD 350 and 650).
Leicameter, Germany DM 300 to DM 450, about USD 175 to USD 260.

>[Lot 8] M3 DS s/n 856027 - similar condition to above, but vulcanite is
>missing near back hatch instead. Rangfinder patch not as bright as M3
>above. w?Summarit s/n 1209264.  And Leica Meter MC as above.

M Summarit, IPG: USD 350, Germany DM 750 - DM 800, about USD 440 to USD 470.
M Summarit "Canada", IPG: USD 1.500.
Germany: Saw an M3 + Summarit 2 weeks ago (slightly used) on DM 1.900, 
about USD 1.100.

Hope, you look good :)
Alf