Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 1997/12/02
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Eric, By "great photographer" I meant to suggest "great artist," not "great photojournalist." That the Eddie Adams photograph of General Lo's act would have, as you say, "no impact" if it had been a mere posed event illustrates my point. The impact of it is photojournalistic and not necessarily artistic. You later wrote (or at least I THINK that it was you) that "HCB is a PAINTER! His pictures just LOOK like photos. He will not say 'I'm a photojournalist.' Or 'I'm a photographer.' Or even 'I'm a painter.' But he WILL say 'I am a surrealist.' Now who but a painter would say that?" Painters paint posed subjects or even imaginary scenes all the time, and we do not depreciate them for doing so. Of course no one wants a news photo to be contrived. But Cartier-Bresson's photographs are something other than photojournalism (even if photojournalism had been the happenstance of their creation!): they are works of art. And as such, they are self-sufficient, and we need not be concerned with how they were created or with what the artist may or may not choose to call himself, because nothing in their means of creation and nothing about the artist himself can ever affect their inherent and enduring value as works of art. Art Peterson ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re[2]: [Leica] RE: Cartier Bresson and the 6 exposures. Author: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us at internet Date: 12/1/97 11:32 PM At 01:48 PM 12/1/97 -0500, you wrote: > > If we were to admire Henri Cartier-Bresson for his supposed technique, > we should be disappointed to learn that it was something other than we > had been led to believe. But a great photographer is not the one with > a great technique, but the one who produces great photographs whatever > his technique may happen to be. And I know of no photographer who has > produced greater photographs than Cartier-Bresson. This I have to disagree with. If a person claims their photos are of "real life" that is, unposed unmanipulated situations, and then it turns out that they aren't, then those photos lose their value. Eddie Adams' picture of General Lo killing the man in Vietnam would have no impact at all if the "dead" guy turned up as the cook in the General's pizza parlor in Washington D.C. years later. Technique, when it comes to photojournalism, is one thing. Art, well, that's another thing. As long as it doesn't pretend to be something it's not. ========== Eric Welch St. Joseph, MO http://www.ponyexpress.net/~ewelch When there's a will, I want to be in it.