Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 1997/11/08

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Subject: Re: "Old" 180mm Lens
From: Alfred Breull <>
Date: Sat, 8 Nov 1997 21:24:07 +0100

>At 08:20 AM 11/8/97 -0700, you wrote:
>You wrote:
>"Yes, the current 180/2.8 is much better optically. For me, it outperforms
>the 180/3.4 APO. The old 180/2.8 was a good lens but not spectacular, as is
>the new 180. The old 180 actually has a bad reputation, as does the old 250.
>What evidence do you have to make such statements. I have the old 180mm lens
>and use it often as a spotting scope in conjunction with a Leica ocular. I
>am glad that this lens has a bad reputation. It is heavy, but relatively
>inexpensive and can be mounted on a tripod. IMHO, the photos are spectacular.

I've bad experiences with the both, the old 2.8/180 and 4/250. My dealer,
who took them back and sold me a M4-2 and some glass, sat 1+ year on the
lenses till he sold them to the next.