Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 1997/10/14

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Subject: Re: M6 film winding
From: Joe Berenbaum <>
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 01:20:26 +0100 (BST)

At 10:34 14/10/97 -0400, you wrote, regarding the Abrahamsoon Rapidwinder:
>They weigh about 130 gram and add 14 mm to the
>overall height of the camera. There is no modification to the camera
>Production is a one-man operation and right now I am back logged
>for about a month. Sunny weather tends to affect production adversely, but
>Vancouver provides for enough grey skies and rain to keep the delays to a
>manageble level.
>Tom A

If they only add 14mm to the height, this means that the camera will still
be coat-pocketable with one of these on it, assuming the right lens. That's

What I'm curious about is whether there is any way to use one of these with
a handgrip. I just tried my M6 with a Noctilux on it and with the handgrip
off, and it feels clumsy and difficult to hold without the more secure hold
on it that a grip provides. And I tried it also with the regular M winder on
it, and it still feels awkward with the Noctilux. I assume the Rapidwinder
does not include a handgrip- and the separate handgrips mount onto the
normal off-centre baseplate tripod socket, not a central socket. Is there
any way around this difficulty, so I could use a Rapidwinder and still use a
handgrip? Could a Rapidwinder be made with a tripod socket at the end as
well, like the regular baseplate?

Joe Berenbaum