Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 1997/06/04

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Subject: Re: Leica-Users List Digest V1 #493
From: Otto Braasch <otto.braasch@bnla.baynet.de>
Date: Wed, 04 Jun 1997 10:53:43 +0200

In article <9706040137.AA02130@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>,  wrote:
> From: dannyg1@IDT.NET (Danny Gonzalez)
> Date: Tue, 3 Jun 1997 06:43:05 -0400 (EDT)
> Subject: Re: R8 Failure Rates
>  
> Otto,
>  
> Your luck with the RTS3's has been bad and I'm sure Blake regrets it badly.
> A few questions if I may:
>  
> Have you had consistent failures among all of your bodies?
> Is there not one that hasn't required a repair?
> What are the most frequently recurring problems?
> Do you have a list somewhere of all the problems you've had?
> Hasn't Blake replaced at least one of your cameras with a new one yet?
> Any complaints about final image quality?
> Lenses to avoid?
>  
> Danny

Danny,

Blake has tried to help very much in CIS/PHOTOGAPHY/ S3 35MM CAMERAS, however 
he could not do much because I live in Germany and I depend on Yashica GmbH, 
Hamburg, for repair etc.
I'll try to answer your above listed questions in sequence.

1: 
Since I experienced failures at six bodies with a wide span of serial 
numbers: 9098 - 22070, the causes must be spread amongst different components 
- - and the repair logs confirm that.  
2:
No, see answer to 1.
3:
Looks like the mirror box (Spiegelkasten) is most often involved.
4:
Yes, see attached list.
5:
See attached list for replacements resp. special offers by Yashica Hamburg. 
6:
I may have a language barrier here: what image do you mean, the optical image 
of lenses or the image of the RTS III amongst professional cameras?
7:
The Planar 1.2/85 MM "60 Years Zeiss" does not come up in resolution to the 
Leica Summilux-R 1.4/80, which I use with the RTS IIIs through a modified 
mount. I have returned that Planar therefore.

Regards,

Otto Braasch
Landshut, Germany



Failure and repair history of my RTS III bodies up to 4 June 97:
 
Serial# 9098:
20.09.91
Overhaul transport mechanism (Transportmechanismus ueberholen)
Guaranty
21.06.93
Erroneus exposure compensation indication in viewer (Fehlerhafte 
Anzeige der Lichtmengenregelung)
Customer's claim could not be reproduced (Fehlerangabe des Kunden 
konnte nicht reproduziert werden)
DM 157.55
03.09.93
Shutter sticks (Verschluss bleibt haengen)
Guaranty
23.03.94
Mirror sticks in shutter-speed priority mode (Spiegel bleibt im 
Tv-Mode haengen)
Guaranty
30.05.94
Mirror sticks (Spiegel bleibt haengen)
Customer's claim could not be reproduced (Fehlerangabe des Kunden 
konnte nicht reproduziert werden)
Guaranty
29.08.94
Body #9098 was replaced by body #12525, when I turned in the 
camera with an unrecorded failure.
Got free a body with new guaranty. 
 
Serial# 9430
13.04.94
Repair and calibrate automatic exposure control (Belichtungs- 
automatik reparieren und justieren)
DM 618.70
15.05.95
Replace transport gear (Transportgetriebe erneuern) 
Replace contacts at amplifier (Ausloesekontakte am Verstaerker 
erneuern)
DM 437.00
14.09.95
Overhaul camera (Geraet ueberholen)
Replace eyepiece ring (Okularring erneuern)
DM 430.10
23.04.96
Replace shutter (Verschluss erneuern)
Repair and calibrate automatic exposure control 
(Belichtungsautomatik reparieren und justieren)
DM 621.00
26.03.97
Frame counter stops at 30 (Zaehlwerk bleibt bei 30 stehen)
Interior components of the camera were replaced for free, outer casing 
remains with serial# 9430
27.05.97
Frame counter does not return from 37-38, rewind does not work correctly
(Bildzaehlwerk laeuft von 37-38 nicht zurueck, Filruecktransport arbeitet 
nicht richtig)
Camera not back yet from repair, 4 June 97
 
Serial# 9665:
23.09.91
Replace shutter (Verschluss erneuern)
Guaranty
03.05.93
Repair shutter (Verschlussaufzug reparieren)
DM 182.85
26.05.93
Repair electronics (Elektronische Schaltung reparieren)
Guaranty
17.05.94
Repair transport mechanism (Transportmechanismus reparieren)
Repair frame counter (Zaehlwerk reparieren)
Guaranty
21.09.94
Replace mirror box (Spiegelkasten erneuern)
DM 1,689.35
06.03.95
Replace aperture transmission (Blendenuebertragung erneuern)
Guaranty
13.08.95
Body #9665 was replaced by body #22070, when I turned in the 
camera with a sticking mirror.
I was charged DM 1,105.15 for the replacement body with new guaranty.
 
Serial# 12525:
17.03.95
Repair frame counter indicator (Zaehlwerkanzeige reparieren)
Guaranty
03.04.95
Replace transport gear (Transportgetriebe erneuern)
Guaranty
18.10.95
Repair mirror box (Spiegelkasten reparieren)
Repair shutter (Verschluss reparieren)
Guaranty
16.04.97
Mirror hangs at sporadic intervals (Spiegel bleibt in unregelmaessigen 
Abstaenden haengen)
Camera was not returned until today, 4 June 97!
 
Serial# 14242
22.03.93
Function check (Funktionspruefung durchfuehren)
Guaranty
21.09.93
Repair frame counter indicator (Zaehlwerkanzeige reparieren)
Guaranty
27.06.94
Replace shutter, blades are bent (Verschluss erneuern, die Lamellen 
sind verbogen)
DM 557.75
04.09.96
Replace shutter (Verschluss erneuern)
Replace program mechanics (Programmechanik erneuern)
DM 741.75
 
Serial# 22070
20.06.96
Repair mirror box (Spiegelkasten reparieren)
Guaranty
24.03.97
Repair shutter (Verschluss reparieren)
Guaranty