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Subject: [Leica] IMGS: Zoroastrian Fire Temple
From: john at mcmaster.fr (John McMaster)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2016 13:59:02 +0000
References: <CA+yJO1BME6fyy_7BWPk_6uCaL-6DtqE7LOaS62OkuaPLth+rsA@mail.gmail.com> <15228353-13B7-47A7-9874-9A9974378473@frozenlight.eu> <CA+yJO1D56TUNzK-9VqsTRou07+KPgNwNB3+6uYcpE6DYz6AkNA@mail.gmail.com> <e7569003c26e4fa5a5d4d6e69f8451ba@WhizzEXM02.whizz.org> <AD0738C9-CF13-490B-8E36-8A6128EA03B8@gmail.com> <b051203872f1482d8c6c570a028ff0b8@WhizzEXM02.whizz.org> <CA+yJO1CnMoKY=4sn+rc+E9s9_5j1a0K1K3XcoR-YHNzX47W=+g@mail.gmail.com> <853464a6542a4de892e303fd40f502aa@WhizzEXM01.whizz.org> <45D4D742-8B1B-4BAF-A0FB-903D1D5F553C@gmail.com> <CA+yJO1DBGzNzJePgWRkyxLgx1Q=k-AoE+_CvFR44FLHFhqVxTw@mail.gmail.com>

I have no doubt you are right, just the second is too manipulated for a 
photographer to like IMO.... Can you not see quite a large difference 
between the two?

john

-----Original Message-----

OK, Guys -

This is what I am competing with:
https://www.google.com/search?q=zoroastrian+fire+temple&rlz=1C1CAFB_enUS636US636&espv=2&biw=1920&bih=1075&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjNyM_czJ3NAhURziYKHcMEBfoQ_AUIBigB

You have to stand out in the crowd if you are going to attract buyers.

Here is the original photo, straight from the camera, converted to jpeg:

http://www.pbase.com/tinamanley/image/163424161

Here is the same photo, processed in Color Efex Pro with the saturation at
6 (I also took out somebody's shoulder in the bottom right - shades of
McCurry!!):

http://www.pbase.com/tinamanley/image/163424164

View at Original.  I don't think the differences are that great, but the 
second one will sell better than the first.  I guarantee it.

Tina

On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 3:26 AM, Philippe <photo.philippe.amard at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Come on john, be a sport, Tina hasn't added more colour than you 
> usually subtract ;-)
>
> Amities from sunny Alsace
> Philippe
>
>
> Le 10 juin 2016 ? 09:19, John McMaster <john at mcmaster.fr> a ?crit :
>
> > Even in a small JPEG they look processed to me :-(
> >
> > john
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> >
> > Sorry you don't like it.  I do.
> >
> > Tina
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 5:44 PM, John McMaster <john at mcmaster.fr> 
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Glad I do not in that case ;-)
> >>
> >> john
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >>
> >> Sometimes I use Color Efex Pro if I like the look. Have you looked 
> >> at Stock sites lately?? Mine are very, very conservative!
> >>
> >> Tina
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>> On Jun 9, 2016, at 4:47 PM, John McMaster <john at mcmaster.fr> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> So is that what gives what looks like boosted colours to many images?
> >>>
> >>> john
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>
> >>> Thanks, Nathan.  I like that one.  I used Color Efex Pro applied a
> >> little stronger than usual because I thought a "painting" look 
> >> would be appropriate.
> >>>
> >>> Tina
> >>>
> >>>> On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 4:27 PM, Nathan Wajsman 
> >>>> <photo at frozenlight.eu>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> That image is beautiful. It looks like a painting.
> >>>>
> >>>> Cheers,
> >>>> Nathan
> >>>>
> >>>> Nathan Wajsman
> >>>> Alicante, Spain
> >>>>
> >>>>> On 08 Jun 2016, at 00:15, Tina Manley <tmanley at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> PESO:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> We visited the Zoroastrian Fire Temple in Yazd for a worship service.
> >>>>> Ordinarily, non-Zoroastrians are not allowed in the room where 
> >>>>> the Victorious Fire (Khordeh Avesta) is located but we went with 
> >>>>> our friends from the cucumber farm and they talked us in.  
> >>>>> Everybody was very
> >>>> welcoming
> >>>>> once we got inside.  The rooms were very, very small and crowded 
> >>>>> so photography was pretty difficult.  The fire itself is from 470 AD.
> >>>> Almost
> >>>>> unbelievable!!
> >>>> http://tinamanley.photoshelter.com/gallery-image/Iran/G0000YmlbTd
> >>>> dL
> >>>> 96
> >>>> g
> >>>> /I0000Y3UKBocfwEk
> >>>>>
> >>>>> and hit previous for more.  I'm still having problems with the lines.
> >>>>> Caitlyn from PhotoShelter affirmed that is not a problem with my 
> >>>>> files
> >>>> but
> >>>>> thinks the transmission might have some hiccups.  She suggested 
> >>>>> I reload them all.  Which I will get around to doing eventually!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "The *Yazd Atash Behram*, also known as *Yazd Atash Kadeh*), is 
> >>>>> a temple
> >>>> in
> >>>>> Yazd <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yazd>, to the west of Shiraz 
> >>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shiraz> in Iran. It was built in
> >>>>> 1934 and enshrines the Atash Bahram 
> >>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atash_Bahram>,
> >>>>> meaning ?Victorious Fire?, dated to 470 AD. The sacred fire is 
> >>>>> installed
> >>>> in
> >>>>> the temple behind an amber tinted glass enclosure. Only 
> >>>>> Zoroastrians are allowed to go to the sanctum area of the fire."
> >>>>>
> >>>>> C&C greatly appreciated.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Tina
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Tina Manley
> >>>>> www.tinamanley.com
> >>>>> tina-manley.artistwebsites.com
> >>>


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