Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2015/10/23
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]You could buy a used M(240) and Monochrom for that money! john -----Original Message----- From: Mark Rabiner They used to cost Price: $11,994.00 Instant Savings: $8,499.00 I've never saved $8,499.00 on anything in my life so I'd be taking a look at it but I do recall it making a negative sensation when it came out. Was universally reviled by one and all as rebadge. I'd spend the $8,499.00 on M&M peanuts. On 10/22/15 5:41 PM, "Tina Manley" <tmanley at gmail.com> wrote: > If I did not have a ton of Leica lenses, I would be very tempted by > this: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1034962-REG/hasselblad_h_1105101_ > hv_dslr_camera_with.html Why have they reduced the price so > much!!??? Tina On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 4:44 PM, Tina Manley > <tmanley at gmail.com> wrote: > The Q is very light and plastic feeling. The SL is heavy and > brick-like. > More like an M. I will just have to learn to work with the EVF which > others seem to love. The reviews say it is much faster with less lag > than the Q which is what made me dizzy. I don't use the EVF on the > M240 much. > Only when I have the R lenses on it. > > Tina > > On Thu, > Oct 22, 2015 at 4:39 PM, John McMaster <john at mcmaster.fr> wrote: > >> Will it > be much different from the Q viewfinder that you seemed to hate? >> Or to an > M(240) with (lower resolution) EVF? >> >> john >> >> -----Original > Message----- >> >> You can use all of the Leica M and R lenses on it with > adapters but they >> won't be autofocus. Supposedly the very large, bright > viewfinder makes it >> easier to manually focus them. >> >> Tina >> >> On Thu, > Oct 22, 2015 at 4:33 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> >> wrote: >> >> > > The Leica SL with a small lens on it would be near pocketable > > (jacket >> > > exterior pocket) unlike the Nikon. But like the M >> > >> > I think we need to > not define a camera body by the stupidly huge lens >> > someone puts on it. > Any camera body can have a modest to compact optic >> > on front of it instead > of a metal munching fast zoom or a zoom with an >> > overly wide range... And > VR makes a lens way heavier and I think >> bulkier. >> > >> > I'm saying put > more Leicalike glass in front of these bodies and we >> > can see how they > compare with an M with a typical M optic on it. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > On 10/22/15 3:50 PM, "Aram Langhans" <leica_r8 at hotmail.com> wrote: >> > >> > > > Interesting. He also seems to state it has better image quality >> > > > than >> > the M. >> > > Here is a quote: >> > > >> > > "The SL is not a cheap > camera ? EUR6,000+ for the body and a further >> > > EUR4,000+ for each lens > makes this the preserve of the very wealthy, >> > though >> > > in reality I > suspect most of Leica?s existing audience will see this >> > > one >> > as >> > > > a no-brainer. M lenses are now virtually native, as are R lenses; >> > > > they?re easy to focus and image quality is better than from the M >> > > > cameras. It >> > would >> > > have been nice to see more resolution, but I > suspect this might have >> > eaten >> > > uncomfortably into S system sales. I > actually suspect this camera is >> > > the beginning of the end of the M > resurgence ? a typical complaint >> > > from M >> > users >> > > I know is one > of deteriorating eyesight and difficulty in achieving >> > focus. >> > > We no > longer have that problem. And for those used to paying $7,000+ >> > > for >> > > a >> > > body, the SL isn?t a stretch at all." >> > > >> > > He also goes on a > bit about the size. BIG >> > > >> > > Aram Langhans >> > > (Semi) Retired > Science Teacher >> > > & Unemployed photographer >> > > >> > > ?The Human > Genome Project has proved Darwin more right than Darwin >> > himself >> > > > would ever have dared dream.? James D. Watson >> > > >> > > >> > > > -----Original Message----- >> > > From: John McMaster > [mailto:john at mcmaster.fr] >> > > Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 11:58 AM >> > > > To: 'Leica Users Group' <lug at leica-users.org> >> > > Subject: Re: [Leica] > BIG new Leica - TINA >> > > >> > > It is the lenses, almost same size and > weight as S lenses! >> > > >> > > > https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5790/21615453253_1c85b372e2_c.jpg >> > > >> > > > SL compared to a D810 with 24-120/4 lens.... >> > > >> > > (from >> > > > http://blog.mingthein.com/2015/10/21/premiere-review-2015-leica-sl-6 >> > > > 01/ >> > ) >> > > >> > > john >> > > >> > > >> > > -----Original > Message----- >> > > >> > > It's really not that big of a camera, but folks are > hung up on this >> > > idea that a mirrorless camera has to be a tiny little > thing. >> > > SL size compared to a digital M: >> > > > https://tinyurl.com/ppbdsr8 >> > > >> > > I look forward to seeing what you > can do with it, Tina. >> > > >> > > Jay >> > > >> > > On 10/21/2015 3:17 PM, > Tina Manley wrote: >> > >> Has anybody posted a photo of it compared to the > size of the M9 or >> > >> the M240? The Sony and Fuji mirrorless cameras are > actually too >> > >> small and too light for me. >> > >> >> > >> Tina >> > > >