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Subject: [Leica] Nikkor P 105mm / focus peaking
From: john at mcmaster.co.nz (John McMaster)
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2015 21:49:29 +0000
References: <53718730fc8c475c8bc39bb6a3e0d9eb@WhizzEXM02.whizz.org> <D139F394.36144%mark@rabinergroup.com>

Pros are a very small percentage of photographers, many amateurs of all 
abilities are leaving SLRs for smaller/lighter kit.

" Unless one had prior experience with M's in the film days and one had a 
huge amount of money for a set of Leica M glass and a backup second body 
which is an M 240. It takes 4 times more money and there would need to be a 
"why" because Canon and Nikon is introducing new exciting cutting edge glass 
every day"
Odd, I was saying to you about the cost of Leica for working pros when you 
were saying the M(240) was going to take over the world ;-) Lenses are still 
much much smaller though...

john

-----Original Message-----
From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+john=mcmaster.co.nz at leica-users.org] On 
Behalf Of Mark Rabiner
Sent: Friday, 27 March 2015 10:34 a.m.
To: Leica Users Group
Subject: Re: [Leica] Nikkor P 105mm / focus peaking

John  I don't see your average working pro switching from full frame DSLR'S 
to cropped format pseudo Leica mirrorless rangefinders. He may get one for 
some cool side shoots in plenty of daylight or strobe for something that's 
going to go on a website. But its not going to be replacing his or her main 
DSLR system. I don't think not even become to happen.
Some have bought a body and a lens and showcase a shoot they've done with 
one.
"They're ok in a pinch but I'd not want to make a CAREER out of them." Said 
digital photographer Jimmy Durante.
I'd assumed I'd see some stuff in magazines or in the internet about top 
jobs being shot with the M 240 but that's not quite happened yet I bet I 
missed one. I'm sure it will in the next couple of years.
And more stuff down with the S system for sure not that its gone CMOS.
discerning pros are going to go larger format before they go smaller.
Part of it is that full frame DSLR'S are not just an SLR with a D in front 
of it. They are awesomely capable photographic tools which are a bit hard to 
part with way way more  so than a film 35mm SLR which begged you to also 
have some medium format to back you up when your film felt small.  I think 
its more complicated than a way back SLR film guy having enough money to get 
into Leica M6.  Unless one had prior experience with M's in the film days 
and one had a huge amount of money for a set of Leica M glass and a backup 
second body which is an M 240.  It takes 4 times more money and there would 
need to be a "why" because Canon and Nikon is introducing new exciting 
cutting edge glass every day that people with those established systems 
would love to be also shooting with.  And new high rez and fast and you name 
it bodies.
Its not about going from system to system and trying new system concepts and 
formats as they are invented. Its about building your full frame DSLR system 
so its capable and current and you are using it. Its hard to have too much 
glass and there are high and low rez bodies. Fast bodies for sports. All 
kinds of bodies. Even cropped bodies which use all your existing full frame 
lenes but are compact as hell.
Sorry this is so verbose I'm out the door with no time to cut it down.


On 3/26/15 3:51 PM, "John McMaster" <john at mcmaster.co.nz> wrote:

> For many people SLRs are on the way out ;-)
> 
> john
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark Rabiner
> 
> So it was the same lens first used on the Nikon Rangefinder camera.
> Only with the new F it made the view bigger and people sure loved that!
> "These SLR's are a trend which will never last"  Ernst Leitz.
> (paraphrase maybe)
> 
> 
> On 3/26/15 3:20 PM, "Sonny Carter" <sonc.hegr at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> early 1960's    f2.5
>> 
>> On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 2:13 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> By Nikkor P you mean real old or original as in early 1960's?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 3/26/15 2:59 PM, "Mark Kronquist" <mak at teleport.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> code?
>>>> On Mar 26, 2015, at 10:49 AM, Tina Manley wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> That one needs to be seen large!  It's beautiful.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Tina
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 1:06 PM, Sonny Carter 
>>>>> <sonc.hegr at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I've been using focus peaking on my Sony A7s and Leica M, R, 
>>>>>> Konica,
>>> and
>>>>>> Nikkor lenses.  I use it for any lens except my Zeiss FE lenses.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Here's a shot with my Nikkor 105mm
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> http://sonc.com/look/?p=4122
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sony A7s , Nikkor-P 105mm, f5.6, 1/160 ISO 640
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sonny
>>>>>> http://sonc.com/look/
>>>>>> Natchitoches, Louisiana
>>>>>> 1714
>>>>>> Oldest Permanent Settlement in the Louisiana Purchase
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> USA
>>>>>> 


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