Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2015/02/25
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]I think in those days I was comparing Fuji Velvia (original 32ASA stuff) with NPS, not overall thickness but which layers the colours were on... john -----Original Message----- From: Richard Man for 4x5 sheet film, Provia (E-6) is much thicker than Portra (C41) On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 10:15 PM, John McMaster <john at mcmaster.co.nz> wrote: > I do not know about modern emulsions, in the 1980/90s C41 film was > physically thicker (particularly sheet film) and hence not as sharp as > E6 film > > john > ________________________________________ > From: Richard Man <richard at richardmanphoto.com> > > For colors, I have switched from 100% E-6 to 80% color negs / 20% E-6. > Occasionally it is still a struggle to get the right color balance, > but that's getting rarer and rarer. The dynamic range of the C41 is > phenomenal, I suspect close to the B&W films. > > On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 8:01 PM, Sonny Carter <sonc.hegr at gmail.com> > wrote: > > > From what I see on Amazon, it is dated 6/14 and refrigerated. > > > > > > > > from my iPad > > > > Sonny Carter > > > > > On Feb 25, 2015, at 9:50 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> > wrote: > > > > > > They have left over's. Hopeful refrigerated by the attitude over > > > there > > on > > > film is negative. Its very begrudging. I love the place otherwise. > > Unless > > > someone is making bootleg rolls in the basement. > > > > > > > > >> On 2/25/15 10:36 PM, "Sonny Carter" <sonc.hegr at gmail.com> wrote: > > >> > > >> That may be, but B&H lists it in stock. > > >> > > >> from my iPad > > >> > > >> Sonny Carter > > >> > > >>> On Feb 25, 2015, at 9:31 PM, Mark Rabiner > > >>> <mark at rabinergroup.com> > > wrote: > > >>> > > >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_discontinued_photographic_f > > >>> ilms List of discontinued photographic films > > >>> > > >>> This the first I'd heard of no more plus x. my basic black and > > >>> white > > medium > > >>> format studio film. In 220 or 70mm. Or 120. > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> 5 Kodak Films > > >>> 5.1 Kodak Verichrome Safety Film > > >>> 5.2 Kodak Verichrome Pan > > >>> 5.3 Kodak Super-XX > > >>> 5.4 Kodak Technical Pan > > >>> > > >>> 5.5 Kodak Professional BW400CN > > >>> > > >>> 5.6 Kodak Professional TRI-X 320 > > >>> 5.7 Kodachrome > > >>> 5.8 Ektachrome E200 > > >>> 5.9 Plus X 125 > > >>> 5.10 Panatomic X > > >>> 5.11 ELITE Chrome Extra Color 100 > > >>> 5.12 ELITE Chrome 100 > > >>> 5.13 E100G > > >>> 5.14 E100VS > > >>> 5.15 E100GX > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>> On 2/25/15 10:03 PM, "Sonny Carter" <sonc.hegr at gmail.com> wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>> Kodak BW CN is still available. You can buy it from B&H, or Amazon. > > >>>> > > >>>> from my iPad > > >>>> > > >>>> Sonny Carter > > >>>> > > >>>>> On Feb 25, 2015, at 7:32 PM, Mark Rabiner > > >>>>> <mark at rabinergroup.com> > > wrote: > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Kodak stopped making their chromogenic black and white film > > >>>>> (what > > this is > > >>>>> called) a few years ago but Ilford still makes XP2 which I've > > >>>>> used > > this > > >>>>> decade to shoot film. It's embarrassingly good. Its made of > > >>>>> dye > > instead > > >>>>> of > > >>>>> silver but how would you know? You can be all into darkroom > > chemistry and > > >>>>> developing and be lucky to approach it with regular black and > > >>>>> white > > films > > >>>>> rated at 400. It seems to have the grain and sharpness of 100 > films. > > >>>>> As far as archivalness goes regular black and white film seems > > >>>>> to > > last > > >>>>> forever with a bit of care and luck but color neg always had a > > >>>>> bad > > rep. > > >>>>> The reason was when you brought it back into the darkroom > > >>>>> again to > > make > > >>>>> another print from a neg you'd printed before you count often > > >>>>> not > > match the > > >>>>> preceding print. The various color layers faded not at the > > >>>>> same > rate > > so > > >>>>> you'd get color crossover. And there was no way to make a real > > >>>>> good > > print. > > >>>>> This did not take years to take place but months and even > > >>>>> weeks and > > some > > >>>>> color custom printers have told me days but I didn't see it > > >>>>> with my > > own > > >>>>> eyes. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> XP2 only has one layer so if it fades a few percentage points > > >>>>> you > > can just > > >>>>> add some contrast and probably match a print you'd made with > > >>>>> it was > > fresh. > > >>>>> All my Xp2 I've shot for decades still looks good and I'd > > >>>>> expect > > would > > >>>>> print > > >>>>> perfectly. Certainly scan perfectly. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>>> On 2/25/15 8:11 PM, "Ken Carney" <kcarney1 at cox.net> wrote: > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> I can second that. Ilford and Kodak make b&w films for C41 > > processing > > >>>>>> (WalMart, Walgreen etc.), and in my experience they scan > > >>>>>> better > than > > >>>>>> conventional negatives. A downside is that they are > shorter-lived, > > but > > >>>>>> in theory at least they are forever once scanned. Or, absent > > scanning, > > >>>>>> as a long-time client of mine once said, at my age I don't > > >>>>>> buy > green > > >>>>>> bananas. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Ken > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>> On 2/25/2015 5:08 PM, Sonny Carter wrote: > > >>>>>>> Have you checked Walgreen's? Most of them still run C41, > > >>>>>>> and you > > show > > >>>>>>> three > > >>>>>>> stores in town. Check the one on Houston hwy, since it is > > >>>>>>> close > > to UH. > > >>>>>>> I > > >>>>>>> don't love their scans (at least at mine) but they do a good > > >>>>>>> job > of > > >>>>>>> processing, and I do lots of small prints up to 8x10 there. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> from my iPad > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Sonny Carter > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> On Feb 25, 2015, at 11:32 AM, Bill Clough < > > billclough042541 at gmail.com> > > >>>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> USA > > >>>>>>>> TEXAS > > >>>>>>>> VICTORIA > > >>>>>>>> 25 February 2015 > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Hi there-- > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Never occurred to me--until now--to look through the Leica > > >>>>>>>> M's viewfinder after cataract surgery. To my surprise, I > > >>>>>>>> now can > > frame and > > >>>>>>>> focus again. > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> I have source for film but even the local drug stores no > > >>>>>>>> longer > > are > > >>>>>>>> processing film. > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> I still have the kinder man tanks but would like to avoid > > >>>>>>>> all > > that. > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> I'm open to any suggestions about where 35mm film still is > > processed > > >>>>>>>> professionally. > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Reply here are offline-- > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Thanks-- > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> --Bill > > >>>>>>>>