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Subject: [Leica] Repairing an old print
From: george.imagist at icloud.com (George Lottermoser)
Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2014 11:25:30 -0500
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On Mar 24, 2014, at 4:24 PM, Leo Wesson wrote:

> Hi Peter,
> 
> This is a good example of why you should never frame valuable prints with
> the print touching the glass surface!
> 
> I have worked on stuff like this for clients.  First you copy the print as
> it is, broken glass and all.  This way you can digitally repair this file
> if the print is destroyed in the process of trying to save it.
> 
> Then all you can do is patiently soak the print in water and hope that
> after awhile, days maybe, the glass will release it's bond to the print
> surface.  It's best to soak glass side down to try to minimize the
> scratching on the print from the broken glass.  The print will be damaged,
> but hopefully not ruined.  At least you have your copy that you did in step
> 1 if things do not go well!
> 
> Good luck!
> 
> 
> Leo Wesson
> Photographer/Videographer
> 817.733.9157
> www.leowesson.com
> 
> 
> On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 12:55 PM, Peter Dzwig <pdzwig at 
> summaventures.com>wrote:
> 
>> All,
>> 
>> advice needed. The other day while cleaning a photo frame was knocked over
>> and
>> the glass broke. I need some advice on how to recover the image. Now read
>> on...
>> 
>> The frame which is one of those curved ones about 1/2 cm thick has split
>> down
>> the centre. BUT the picture - which is the only surviving one of my
>> father-in-law in uniform in India at the end of WWII - is of great
>> sentimental
>> importance. There is no neg, so the image can't be reproduced and the
>> print is
>> contemporary with the photo.
>> 
>> The problem that I need your advice on is as follows: the glass is held
>> together
>> by the picture. So: how do I get the print off the glass and intact?
>> 
>> There are a couple of images of the picture Here:
>> 
>> 
>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/PeterDzwig/Temp/20140324_163231_001.jpg.html
>> 
>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/PeterDzwig/Temp/20140324_163251.jpg.html
>> 
>> Thanks in advance,
>> 
>> Peter Dzwig

first things first.

1) decide whether you're going to do this yourself or find someone who's 
done it often with many different vintage emulsions.
2) If you decide to do it yourself: begin to carefully remove the backing 
and frame with appropriate tools, exacto knives, etc.
3) once you're down to just the photo and the glass sticking to it - use an 
eye dropper to put one drop of an appropriate liquid at some point where the 
glass and photo are stuck to determine if continuing this technique will 
allow you to peel the two apart. (I would test first with alcohol - as it 
will evaporate quickly. If the alcohol does help - I'd test with water in 
the eye dropper).
4) If the dropper method allows release - I'd simply continue to carefully 
add drops at the points of adhesion and peel carefully. The drop will run 
along edge of adhesion.
5) If the dropper method does not allow release - I'd set up a way to hang 
the glass/photo with a corner in water and test if a piece of glass will 
fall off given enough time in the soak.

Regards,
George Lottermoser 
george at imagist.com
http://www.imagist.com
http://www.imagist.com/blog
http://www.linkedin.com/in/imagist



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