Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/10/14

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Subject: [Leica] D800E pixel-peepers
From: alal at poly.edu (A. Lal)
Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 10:36:03 -0400
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Well, one would expect 'middle class' to be country dependent, of course, 
but surely an M3 would not have been out of reach for a UK based middle 
class household?

In 1955, shortly after the M3 was introduced, we lived in Germany where my 
late father was a management trainee (note: trainee, not exactly a high 
paying position)  for a German multinational. After looking at the M3 he 
decided to buy a Contax IIIa instead as he felt the Contax metal shutter 
would hold up better in the Indian climate than the rubberised cloth of the 
Leica. In the event this was not the case,  for the well documented shutter 
tape problems on the Contax rendered the camera unusable by the mid 60s.   I 
remember that the Leica M3 with 50 summicron was just under 1100 DM new, 
while the Contax IIIa  with the 2.0 Sonnar was about 50 DM cheaper. This was 
certainly within reach. The Retina IIIc was around DM 500.

One more example, In '76 when I was a post-graduate student on a fellowship 
here in the USA,  I got my first M3, a clean second hand example,  complete 
with DR Summicron, eyes for DR, MR meter, ERC, lens shade, and, yes a UV 
filter, for $ 330. K'chrome was 4 bucks a roll them, with Kodak processing. 
BTW, around the same time a good friend who had just got his first job 
bought a new M4 with Summicron for around $ 800.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Frank Dernie" <Frank.Dernie at btinternet.com>
To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2012 5:12 AM
Subject: Re: [Leica] D800E pixel-peepers


> Not in England they weren't!
> FD
>
> On 13 Oct, 2012, at 23:38, A. Lal <alal at poly.edu> wrote:
>
>> Indeed.
>>
>> Back in the day the M2/M3 were cameras that middle class wage earners 
>> could afford to own without stressing the family budget.



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