Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/06/28

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Subject: [Leica] Leica Gallery and the Puddle Jumper
From: john at mcmaster.co.nz (John McMaster)
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 03:09:24 +0000
References: <D6A61C30-62BA-4EF3-95D5-B6CD565A0DA1@sfr.fr>, <CC128F7B.205F6%mark@rabinergroup.com>

Finally found the uncropped version!

http://lourceyphoto.com/the-decisive-moment/

john
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I do think they 're talking about two different versions of the same neg
which had been printed. And by the way was likely he himself at this point
printed it. First he printed it more or less full frame which had the blurry
fence in it at the left end of the image. They he moved the enlarger up and
was able to crop out the blurry fence and turn it into a vertical instead of
horizontal image.

This thing of an image shot vertical and ending up as a horizontal is a
thing which does happen a lot to photographers working in the 20th century
in 35mm. If not by them then by a picture editor.

And by the way despite what a thing said yesterday on HCB's mode or working
printing full frame black border has never stopped a photo editor from
cropping a picture. Many just take the face out no mater who or what is
going on. They put their own black border on later if they feel like it.

- - from my iRabs.
Mark Rabiner
http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/


> From: Philippe Amard <philippe.amard at sfr.fr>
> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 20:04:25 +0200
> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Leica Gallery and the Puddle Jumper
>
> Lot Notes
> Cette photographie est une des deux seules images (l'autre ?tant celle
> du Cardinal Pacelli) qu'Henri Cartier-Bresson a, d?s la prise de vue,
> d?cid? de recadrer; il la prend l'objectif bloqu? par une palissade
> qu'il a imm?diatement supprim?e au premier tirage. Cette photographie
> fut tir?e pour la premi?re fois en 1946 par Henri Cartier-Bresson afin
> de pr?parer son exposition organis?e en f?vrier 1947 au MoMA de New
> York. Le tirage pr?sent? ici a ?t? r?alis? ? New York en 1946; c'est,
> avec celui du Scrapbook, l'un des premiers tirages de cette
> photographie.
>
>
http://www.christies.com/lotfinder/LotDetailsPrintable.aspx?intObjectID=549419>
4
>
> Says it is one of the two photographs he immediately cropped due to
> the fence showing in the snap
>
> maybe some of you saw the various evolutions side by side ???
>
> Ph
>
>
> Le 28 juin 12 ? 19:20, George Lottermoser a ?crit :
>
>>
>> On Jun 28, 2012, at 9:55 AM, Richard Taylor wrote:
>>
>>> Amen.  I think the only way to close this would be to show us--who
>>> know what we saw--the contact sheet with only one jumper, or the
>>> contact sheet with multiple different jumpers.
>>
>>> On Jun 28, 2012, at 10:42 AM, Mark Rabiner wrote:
>>>
>>>> Well if it didn't exist they shouldn't have put it in the show.
>>
>> being that you saw this in a "scrapbook" show
>> apparently edited by the artist himself
>> is it possible
>> that you saw a number of versions of the the same frame
>> "scrapped into a book"
>> (rather than a "contact sheet")
>>
>> Regards,
>> George Lottermoser
>> george at imagist.com
>> http://www.imagist.com
>> http://www.imagist.com/blog
>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/imagist
>>
>>
>>


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