Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2011/01/04
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Been reading much of this thread and admit I may have missed something. Black and white versus color doesn't matter from my point of view. A photo has impact or it doesn't. Okay. -- One: I agree with Ted on impact . . . I came up a photojournalist and want to grab eyes. Immediately. Sometimes I judge photo competitions; I love it when viewers in the room make me "hear" a photograph, regardless of what I think of the photo. The audience reaction tells me something about impact -- good or bad. Something's going on as a result of that image and I want to know what. -- Two: Rules change when you're shooting for a publication, client, stock or any other kind of paid fee/commission. We all want to shoot well. We're paid for our eyes, our vision, our style; but our considerations and aesthetics are, when we're paid, essentially secondary. Yes, we guide and shoot what we think is best, but we better deliver what clients want 'cuz it's their decision about what meets or does not meet their needs. Same with curators. Have worked many sides of the photo equation so, like many of you, I'm aware of what it's like to be the hired hand wanting to meet expectations and get more work and the hirer with specific expectations of the hired hand who's paid to deliver. Now some caveats. A large percentage of this list, unless I am wrong, is amateurs and hobbyists. That's a statement, not a judgement. Fact is, many amateurs have more skill and talent than many pros paid for their photos. My guess is that most LUG-ers shoot for themselves, hence pleasing themselves comes first, then their immediate families, friends, etc . . . whoever they intend the images for. Formal aesthetics and other such things that apply to the professionals, the curators and so-called professional crowd do not apply in this category, though they are darned handy to know. I have seen many photos I consider horribly composed, a waste of film and paper, or worse, printed with skill, detail and tone I've never been able to achieve in a wet darkroom or on screen. They pleased the shooters. Good for them. Drawing on my judging of competitions and exposure to some schools, galleries and museums where I live, more emphasis seems to be placed on technical -- printing, primarily, and the rule of thirds -- skills rather than eyes and impact. I've been exposed to many lousy shooters -- and I'm being kind -- who I'd love to hire to handle my printing. Have actually hired a few for that over the years. Have always been a camera photographer, not a darkroom guy -- despite my generally excruciating efforts over the years. Guess my bottom line is that there is no right or wrong. There are the basics most schools teach, the skills self-taught photographers acquire and the basic skill sets pros learn as they're hired and re-hired, fired, or hired then forgotten about after one shoot. Yes, the A, B, Cs are good to know. Useful, too. If you're shooting for yourself and the results please you, good work and good for you. If you're shooting for others and not pleasing them, not so good for you. Most of what I shoot these days is for me. Always want to make it better, which is why I occasionally post photos and hope people say more than nice shot, good effort or why'd you waste the pixels. I want to know why, through others' eyes, something could be better 'cuz I know how I see. If it's nice, why is it nice to you? If it's a waste of pixels, tell me why. (And feel free to line your bird cage.) How can I, as a photographer, learn from y'all's eyes and comments to further hone whatever style or skill I have to improve what I do? Have fun and, to mangle Kyle's sign-off advice, keep on clicking that shutter. It'll come. Thank you. Greg Rubenstein