Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2010/06/29
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Peter: I know what you're going through. Leica should make good on your problems, but the issues are complex, and some real-world compromises may be needed. Let me give you an overview of the situation. Those of us experienced with film Ms tend to think of the Leica rangefinder as a perfect device. And with film, for all practical purposes, it was when properly adjusted. Nobody complained about focus shift and back/front focus except with the Noctilux. The digital Ms have much greater precision requirements for focusing, due to the fact that the image-making plane on a sensor is a flat plane, whereas film has thickness. And the M8's lack of an anti-aliasing filter means that you really see minute differences in focus accuracy. When the M8 came out, Leica was still adjusting lenses to film-M specs, which wasn't good enough. Supposedly they've upgraded their equipment and testing procedures. But there are enough stories like yours that I wonder. DAG (Don Goldberg) in Wisconsin is the only person on the planet that I know of outside Leica itself who can truly optimize lenses for the M8. He will adjust your lenses using a known-good M8. If necessary, you can send him both your M8 and your lenses, and he will make sure both are up to standard. With Don, it may take a while, but you know he will get things as right as they can be. With Leica, it seems to be a crapshoot. 90mm lenses and very fast lenses are the hardest to get right. With some fast lenses, you have a choice. You can have a lens adjusted to focus perfectly wide-open, in which case it will back focus at middle apertures; or you can have it adjusted so they are perfect from f/2.8 and narrower, in which case they will front focus wide-open. I had DAG adjust my 35/2 pre-asph Summicron IV in the latter manner, since I mostly use it outdoors. My 35/1.4 Summilux ASPH came from the factory optimized for wide-open use. It back focuses slightly at middle apertures, but I know what to do to get it right--focus on a person's nose instead of their eyes, or focus on the closest thing I want in the zone of focus rather than the middle of the zone. Since it's behaving exactly how Leica described it in a Leica Fotographie article, I decided to leave it alone. I hand-code it rather than send it to Leica, and risk an experience like yours. If it ever gets out of adjustment, I'll send it to DAG. Even DAG was not able to get my pre-Asph 90 Summicron to focus perfectly. But he got it close enough and consistent enough that I know what to do to compensate when I use it in the theatre or concert hall. My old 1960s 90 Elmarit is hopeless on the M8, and it was fine on film. My other 90 is a Voigtlander 90/3.5 Lanthar, and it is perfect at all stops--so this is the 90 I use the most. Even Leica has admitted that faster 90mm lenses may be beyond the accuracy of the rangefinder system on the M8. Now the dirty little secret: All fast lenses have focus shift. It's always been there, but we never noticed it on film. With the M8, the question is how much and whether it really matters. I can detect it on my tabbed 50 Summicron, but it doesn't really matter in practice. My 50 Dual-Range Summicron (altered to mount on the M8) has so little that it can be ignored. A lens like the VC 35/1.4 Nokton has a great deal of focus shift, and it's never going to be perfect at all stops and distances. This is one reason why Leica is creating new lenses with floating elements (like the new 35 and 50 Summilux ASPH lenses). Voigtlander solved the focus shift problem on the big 35/1.2 Nokton by not correcting some aberrations, such that as you stop down, the focus shift actually oscillates back and forth slightly across the point the rangefinder is actually focused on. I've reproduced this myself, and couldn't believe my eyes. Erwin Puts told me that no, I wasn't imagining it, it was part of the lens design. The result is a lens that is for practical purposes, free of noticeable focus shift. The price you pay is in contrast. So, getting lenses to focus correctly on the M8 is a complex process with several variables: 1. Is your M8 exactly up to standard? 2. Is your lens exactly up to standard? (if either of these two factors are off, you will have front or back focus at all stops. If the camera or the lens cam is way off, you may have correct focus at some distances and not at others). 3. How much focus shift does your lens have? If focus shift is a practical problem, then... 4. Do you want your lens optimized for wide open, middle stops, or some compromise where it's almost right everywhere, but not quite? If the compromise is sufficient for the kind of photography you do, great. If not, pick the optimization you want. Compensate when needed, or use different lenses for available light vs. outdoors. I hope this is helpful. --Peter