Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2008/12/21
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Re: Subject:[Leica] Re: Ansel Adams OK so maybe in defense of my comments, hopefully I explain myself without increasing the fire. I don't have a problem with the work of Ansel Adams. There's no question he was a master without peer! I did say: >>>58 years ago when I first seriously began my photographer fun thing, his work was hot stuff in all the photo magazines. I thought .. "gee this guy is real good at taking pictures of mountains and stuff in parks, I better learn everything I can about how he does it!" That was it, the more I read about him and his "ZONE system" the less interested I became! <<<<< And without question I did read everything and anything about the man and his photography. But the more I read the more disinterested I became because we were on different paths. He was shooting in sheet film and predominantly what seemed mountains, National Parks and basically still things where it was possible to shoot and re-shoot to attain the perfect negative and perfect print. Absolutely nothing wrong with that. I on the other hand was predominately a "life of people and action photographer." Still am after all these years. However, what many of you don't know is.. Many of my rock and fern and scenics have sold often through an art gallery here in town. And many of them form part of the National Archives of Canada, ted grant photo collection. You see "my rock and fern stuff, and I do have a few neat "Peeling paint as well!" ;-) It's always been a private down home thing with me. It's my R&R after the damn shit has stopped flying during an assignment where sometimes you've had to keep your head down and ass hopefully there when it's over. It's when I can lie on my belly in the garden or by the sea side and do my "Ansel Adams thing." That I appreciate the relaxing feelings he must have felt while doing his of mountains. But I did mine on roll film, with a Hasselblad and Leica's, a roll at a time. And as much as I've read and re-read about the ZONE system, there isn't a hope in hell the zone system works 36 frames at a time as it does, one sheet of film at a time for exposure and development. I spent quite sometime in London UK taking in an Ansel Adams exhibition, the first time I'd seen his prints up close and in my face! To say the least I was completely blown away with the print quality beyond anything the likes I'd ever seen. Obviously they were made from larger sheet film and not 35 mm tri-x at 400 or 800! The content however didn't excite me, much along the lines of Karsh portraits of the high and mighty folks. Fantastic qualities by both photographers of image content and print quality. But for a better way of putting it. "it's just not my thing!" That doesn't mean I don't admire the quality, one would be a fool if they didn't see the talents of these photographers in doing their thing! I'm an alive person, I like to be involved with what ever the living subject is, to learn about it, feel it, see it and cry over it, or with them! And yet not be there. I've shot people and places constantly over a half century career and if I make a comment that AA's photography/content doesn't turn my crank, that has absolutely nothing to do with the exposure and print quality, nor the Masters ability. But the subjects/content sit there and so? That isn't any kind of put down of the Master Photographer himself as a human being.. Hell he may well have looked at mine and it might leave him in a similar fashion. We'll never know. However, KARSH along with his brother Malak Karsh did see my work on occasions in Ottawa usually with what might be called, admiring affection. So I can quietly live with that. And I will stick with what I said: >> But then I get big goose bumps of admiration over the photography of Eisenstaedt, Ralph Morse, George Silk and the others of the early years of LIFE! Now they were real photographers and masters of the photographic moments!<<< It is a difference of subject material. And for anyone not to understand that, then they have a problem, not I. ted