Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2008/09/14
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Ric Carter offered: Subject: Re: [Leica] A new set of photos >>I don't know about, Luis, but I'll tell you what I like about it. It's an Easter basket of faces with eyes all diverted from not only the camera, but also each other. If one would like to wax artsy BS about what that says about society in today's world, I suppose one could do that. On first blush, I just find it a pleasant capture of the world.<<<<< Hi Ric, Gee you sure read a lot into the exposure. It just didn't do anything for me other than an exposure of faces. I suppose some folks read all kinds of things into street photography. Unfortunately I don't! It's either there right in your face smack dab illustrating a fine moment of a quick shooters ability. If that doesn't happen then usually the shot is merely an exposure missed. >>>It has a wedge composition that I find pleasing. From one face on the right, it radiates toward the left, expanding into similar expressions pointed in differing directions.<<< Now that's quite an analysis. Some people can do this kind of thing with almost any exposure. I'm always amazed at what the "Art Crowd people" read into some of my medical photographs in the published books. I "see eyes" of the nurse, that's it period. "Art person" can go into a description of the design and composition of the photograph way beyond what the triggering photo moment was, "The eyes!" But then they never mention that aspect because they don't see as a photojournalist of people. But they sure as heck can do as you've done with a mega analysis. >>>Why is Luis's expression of appreciation without explanation less valid than a condemnation without explanation?<<<< I merely asked him what he saw that he liked. You're the one going into all the details. I didn't condemn the shot, it just didn't do anything for me compared to many of the others. So I was curious to find out what he liked and made his comment. Quite simple really. >>"I like" is a matter of personal taste. If you are prepared to argue "No, you don't," help yourself, but you cannot win that one.<<< I don't have a problem with anyone making a comment "I like it." However I see absolutely nothing wrong with asking the question.. "What is it that you like?" You might consider I was trying to learn something by his comment. Quite simple again and non-condemning. >>>>Sometimes, folks don't have time to explain why they like a particular photo. Sometimes, they don't even know. Knowing that someone appreciates the image is still a reinforcement and at least a bit educational to the photographer.<<<<< You are right most people don't go into a great diatribe explanation of why or why not about pictures. And what did I just say? I was trying to learn something and you haven't given me credit that may have been the case. >>>>Clearly, you did not care for the collection. That's fine. It says as much about your taste as John's photos. Luis's comments say the same.<<<< No I didn't say I didn't care for the collection, the over all series is very well done and I'm giving John credit as a fine street shooter as we've seen in the past on many occasions. My comment and I still stand on it. I think he needed to be a touch more ruthless in his edit. Hey, we all are our own worse editors! You may not think so, that's your privilege. >>>Could the collection have been more strictly edited. Of course. But, then I may have missed some of the ones I like best.<<< Once again your prerogative. But this conversation is hardly worth noting in the reality of editing. Again here is my earlier comment in answer to Luis "I like" remark. On Sep 14, 2008, at 5:52 PM, Ted Grant wrote: >Why? I feel there are several others far superior to this >which didn't do a thing for me. So mon ami, why do you like this one and what does it have. That makes you like it?<<< See Ric, all I did was ask a simple question in that maybe I'd learn something from a fellow photographer. Better luck next time. Cheers, ted