Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2008/01/06
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Y'all - Most interesting that this snap should provide a focus for discussion of so many issues (most of them admittedly my own.) I'll "front load" this post so if you don't feel like schlogging through it all you can get the general idea quickly. Thanks to Geoff, George, Luis, B.D., Philippe, Michiel, Ric, and Bill for providing positive perspective on this shot: http://contest.leica-users.org/main.php/v/0712/McfR-1_5.jpg.html? g2_imageViewsIndex=1 Basically, I feel that one of the only things that's sillier than judging a bunch of photos and picking a few winners is judging the results of the judging. I doubt if anyone on the list (even an individual judge) agrees with the results of the overall Cabal of Judges in all of the contests so far. I've certainly had that "how can this thing have been picked as First Place when this other one didn't even get mentioned" feeling at least once in previous months... I really don't believe in photography contests. I've picked up a couple of really funny examples of prints in junk (oh yeah... excuse me, "antique") shops that were submitted for photo club contests in the 50's & 60's; the kindof things people do when they're sucking up to judges really makes me laugh. (One of my fantasies is that I'll snag a grant one of these days that will allow me to tool around the US (in the 2-seat retro sports car of my choice) and collect a bunch of these things for a nice exhibition someday.) How I let myself slip in to entering some snaps into a few LUG contests is something I need to examine (the deadline corresponded with monthly editing, the theme-based constraint helped clarify classification and keywording, etc.) Another reason for this aversion to contests is that a lot of folks who don't "win" start to feel that their stuff needs to look more like the winning stuff and begin to second-guess their own judgement in a way that is actually more destructive than constructive in the long run. What really works well, though, is when a lot of people start talking about one picture. So, for the record, here's my 20 cents on this Rex & Marianna shot. Before Brian and Steve posted their first comments I was gonna use this shot to illustrate my first experiences with New Tmax400 in Xtol. Very good sharpness (as advertised,) really long scale, endless highlight latitude (with a creamy, almost medium-format feel to them). Don't exactly know how the grain structure will look in a really big enlargement but there's a lot to like about this combo. However, I'm not sure yet about the spectral sensitivity. Whereas my fallback combo of Neopan 400 in Xtol usually looks like I actually knew enough to filter the shot properly (when I used no filter at all), the jury ain't in on this New Tmax stuff. So, the muddling of greys, especially between Rex's skin and the wall, might have been unavoidable or might have been better with some other materials; I dunno. I think it could use more separation, but it's sorta OK enough the way it is. Sharpness-wise, do click on the 900 pixel option to eliminate the resizing softness of the small version; the overall acuity is actually quite good. And this brings up another point, which is the little screen displays we're looking at on our monitors. Some might think this serves as a "great leveler" - actually it helps some shots (like an over-cropped birdsnap) but hurts others (like when there's a sign in the photo that's critical to its impact that can't be read in a small rendering.) Regarding the clutter, that's certainly central to the content (as some folks already pointed out). (Actually, I have a small collection of snaps of pure clutter that I really like.) Both the "distortion" (most visible in the trapezoidal photo frame on the wall) and the inclusion of everything-possibly-including-the-kitchen- sink are a result of experiments with leaving a wideangle on the M that I try to wear most of the time. As far as bending the knees to get a more straight-on perspective goes, there really wasn't time for that; I needed to shoot what I saw at the moment, and going into a crouch would've been distracting to the subjects (or at least one of them) as well as overemphasizing Rex's feet (My wife Ruthie was quick to point out, when we were looking at some shots of HCB in action, that his legs were always working hard to get the height right.) Bottom line, though; I'm goin' back to a 50. Now for some individual addresses: Steve - Your decision to post the caption you and your wife were imagining for this shot - "hey Rex ...are you dead yet?" is staggeringly insensitive. It's also, however, staggeringly close to the reason for this photo. One of the things we see in this is a certain "caregiver fatigue" - in fact a somewhat darker take on "caring" than one might normally shoot for in photos for this theme. And in fact, when Brian announced this theme I thought to myself "Well... why should any of us bother entering when it's clear that Steve's gonna have this one locked up. In fact, we oughtta just give him an honorary win based on his previously posted body of work." (Although then we'd hafta give one to Tina, too...) So I can see why you might be bugged to not have your name among the named. Brian - I seem to recall that you asked for an "expansive" interpretation of the theme. So, in the spirit of bluff-calling I decided to really try to find some alternate takes on this "caring" business. Here's one which took last place in the contest (a spot which I'm proud to share with some of my favorite photographers and people on the LUG) - it's about a guy who really cares about his book, and apparently thinks that we should, too: http://contest.leica-users.org/main.php/v/0712/Saving+for +Something.jpg.html And another (4th from last) about a couple of guys who care so much about who's got the "right of way" that they think it's worth a streetfight (again, having the 50 would've been nice): http://contest.leica-users.org/main.php/v/0712/Streetfight+crop +curve.jpg.html?g2_imageViewsIndex=1 (Really sincere apologies for referring to my own damn pix but if I get started on all the cool stuff in the contest (like the opposing hands in George's picture) we'll never get outta here...) But in the end Walt's straightforward, resonant and beautiful renderings of human compassion triumphed, and that's really good news for all of us. Bob Palmieri