Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2007/04/06

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Subject: [Leica] M8 picture in magenta light
From: mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner)
Date: Fri Apr 6 23:07:52 2007

On 4/6/07 8:47 PM, "MARK DAVISON" <davison_m@msn.com> typed:

>>>> Considering the variation of light conditions I'd be glad I had an
>> exposure at all! A pox on the on going concerns of people about M8 and
>> IR.<<
>> 
>> ...My concerns are begging to feel a little feverish! :-)
>> 
> 
> Certainly it is futile to worry too much about color rendition when 
> shooting
> stage performances which are lit with colored gels.
> 
> However, it is very common to shoot color portraits of people sitting in
> windows, often with incandescent interior lights mixed with the window
> light.
> 
>> From our experience with film, we expect our digital cameras to be able to
> do a reasonable job of reproducing skin tones and fabric in this situation.
> 
> My experience with the M8 shows that if you want to do this reliably, and
> repeatedly, without having to resort to a lot of post-processing, you 
> should
> always shoot with an IR blocking filter on the lens.
> 
> For an example, see:
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/MarkEDavison/M8+filter+study/
> 
>

Most the tests like this I see they are always showing stuff right out of
the camera with the various defaults the cameras have built into things not
matching the defaults other cameras have. So we are comparing raw like
images which are very dissimilar to start with. I think they need to be
matched up as closely as possible first to get a real world idea of what the
ballgame is all about.

On a thing like this you see a print which is clearly red you would have
taken red out with the color corrections any software has. I'd like to see
THAT!
Then you compare it to a print in which the red was taken out ahead of time
by the special expensive cut off filter. You compare 2 fairly MATCHED
PRINTS. And see what your moneys getting you by nipping that blush in the
bud.  

Then you say "see the fringing we're not getting here we are getting here"
with blow ups maybe of the fringe area or whatever it is.

But this is apples and oranges.
Or more like chestnuts and limes.
Socialists and architecture
going bananas or flipping one's wig,
Queen of hearts and Jack of Spades

Leicas are from Mars Canons are from Venus.

Ted may be right he's idea seems to be most this red we would have gotten
rid of just with a color correction right (make that left) out of the gate
with no extra add ons.
The question to me is what of the remnants?
The smushed bruised grapes at the bottom of the vat that have not been
stepped on enough?

The stained feet.
Purple toes majesties. Above the fruited plain.

Rockets' Red glare Rabiner




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