Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2007/03/27

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Subject: [Leica] Film/Digital
From: dlr at dlridings.se (Daniel Ridings)
Date: Tue Mar 27 02:47:36 2007
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Frank and Didier,

I usually don't get too involved in these discussions. I guess when it 
comes right down to it, I really don't care. I use digital and I use 
film, for different reasons. I like them both.

But playing around with Lightzone as I have been doing recently, I have 
a shot last week with film:

http://www.dlridings.se/gallery/v/Shoebox/2007v12/07v12-0002.jpg.html

And from the same sitting, one with digital:

http://www.dlridings.se/gallery/v/Shoebox/2007v13/DSC_8674.jpg.html

I see now that the digital is too "low key". I need to brighten it up a 
bit and do the color conversion intelligently rather than lazily.

Daniel


Didier Ludwig wrote:
> Frank
> There's nothing to argue about what you say. Digital has passed film in 
> terms of resolution and dynamic range since several years; except you 
> produce zone-system-exposed, tripod based, ISO25 large format shots as you 
> mentioned. All I want to add is that, sometimes, I have the feeling that 
> the screened or printed scans of my b&w (mostly 100, 125 and 400 ASA) 
> small format negatives have another patina, another texture, just "another 
> look" than my digital pix from the R-D1. I've tried many PS hacks but 
> could not imitate this effect so far. Because i still like that "look". 
> Younger people, like my graphic design students, call it "retro" (but they 
> like it, too, though they'd never have the patience, or passion, to fiddle 
> around with it).
> Didier
> 
> 
> 
>> Hi Jerry,
>> your statement is miles from my experience.
>> Digital is MUCH better than film for everything I do. In fact I would  
>> say that unless you use slow hi res B&W film and your camera is  
>> always on a tripod the potential extra resolution of film (its only  
>> theoretical benefit over digital, it is already inferior in every  
>> other way) will never be actually visible/useable.
>> Frank
>>
>>
>> On 26 Mar, 2007, at 23:31, Photo Phreak wrote:
>>
>>> Digital is convenient, but the quality is still not equal to film.

Replies: Reply from leica at screengang.com (Didier Ludwig) ([Leica] Film/Digital)
Reply from philippe.orlent at pandora.be (Philippe Orlent) ([Leica] Film/Digital)
In reply to: Message from leicam4pro at yahoo.com (Photo Phreak) ([Leica] I'm blaming Ted!)
Message from Frank.Dernie at btinternet.com (Frank Dernie) ([Leica] I'm blaming Ted!)
Message from leica at screengang.com (Didier Ludwig) ([Leica] Film/Digital (was: I'm blaming Ted))