Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2007/03/01
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Bob, Xtol works so well because ascorbates are efficient developers of silver at moderate pH, even at low concentrations. This is why Xtol still works well at high dilution. Thin or not the scan I could see looks great. If you plan to scan and print digitally and you like the way this looks, how dense the negs are (or not) doesn't matter. If you want to print in a wet darkroom, try it and see if you can get prints you are happy with. Again, if it works, there's nothing to fix. I have done a lot of testing with Xtol 1+3 and the Neopans. I use EI640 and 13.5 min @ 20C for Xtol 1+3. This gave very low base fog (I particularly like the very clear base and low base fog of Acros) and a (measured with a calibrated densitometer) CI of 0.56. Higher speeds and/or longer times didn't effectively increase the speed for me - the CI increased disproportionately to the densities in the shadow values. I have also done a lot of wet printing and measurement of print and negative densities. I could never get sufficient shadow contrast for my taste in silver prints from negs with a FB + fog of 0.1. Essentially, this means that the ISO speeds are good for standardisation, but adjust for your own taste. Sophisticated testing is not necessary if you develop using consistent methodology, keep records and know what you like. We can argue about this until we're blue in the face, but if you're happy with the end product, it doesn't matter. As an aside, LuGer John Black developed (pun unintended) an extremely novel film developer using ascorbates and phenidone in a tris buffer that is stable in long-term storage. It is still susceptible to contamination in the dilution water, but using deionised water improves the consistency of results when using D76 and other traditional developers too. Later, Marty =