Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2007/01/12

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Subject: [Leica] Re: RF / SLR
From: jbcollier at shaw.ca (John Collier)
Date: Fri Jan 12 21:59:33 2007
References: <A1C16357-EF9C-4F4E-85C2-D94243AE2A53@mac.com> <C1CD8A04.512F%lug@steveunsworth.co.uk> <3cad89990701121822v971f246kea3973a310aca70f@mail.gmail.com>

Leica cannot compete with Nikon and Canon period. If they try to,  
they are doomed period.

Quite a few photographers prefer a good quality rangefinder over an  
SLR. I know I do.

Leica makes a good quality film rangefinder and their only hope of  
survival is to make a good quality digital one.

Whether the M8 is that I cannot say.

I have bought a fair amount of Leica equipment new and I do not  
believe I am alone on this list, or in the world for that matter in  
doing so.

John Collier


On 12-Jan-07, at 7:22 PM, Jayanand Govindaraj wrote:

> I think that you miss the point that there are not many of that  
> species
> around, at least, not enough to fill Leica's coffers. Even Tina and  
> Harrison
> agree that they would use a M8 in addition to their SLRs, and not  
> replace
> them. Stop looking at it from your narrow point of view, and look  
> at it from
> Leica's point of view. Selling a couple of dozen M8 cameras to  
> members of
> this list will not make much difference in their fortunes. They  
> have to go
> for a broader market, and hence the strategy to make this an iconic,
> fashionable buy. They really have no choice at the price point the  
> M8 is at
> and have to get at least one good year of sales out of the M8 to  
> shore up
> their net worth for the future.  All of us buy so much of our Leica  
> gear
> second hand, that I think that is the only route to take to entice new
> buyers. Buying second hand is good for us, but bad for Leica. My  
> guess is
> that, barring a miracle,  Leica will inevitably end up in a few  
> years as
> third party lens manufacturers - rather as Zeiss is doing now, or some
> Japanese giant will take them over.
> Cheers
> Jayanand
>
>
> On 1/13/07, Steve Unsworth <lug@steveunsworth.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> Thank you for saying that George, it's a point many people seem to  
>> miss.
>>
>> On 12/1/07 18:00, "Lottermoser George" <imagist3@mac.com> wrote:
>>
>> > If a photographer wishes to work with a digital range finder camera
>> > the D200 and/or 5D obviously do not fit in their decision.
>> >
>> >
>> > On Jan 11, 2007, at 9:46 PM, Jayanand Govindaraj wrote:
>> >
>> >> I do not
>> >> think that many photographers will spend US$5000 on the M8 when a
>> >> D200 or a
>> >> 5D are available at the price they are.

Replies: Reply from jayanand at gmail.com (Jayanand Govindaraj) ([Leica] Re: RF / SLR)
Reply from jsmith342 at cox.net (Jeffery Smith) ([Leica] Re: RF / SLR)
Reply from tedgrant at shaw.ca (Ted Grant) ([Leica] Re: RF / SLR)
In reply to: Message from imagist3 at mac.com (Lottermoser George) ([Leica] Re: RF / SLR)
Message from lug at steveunsworth.co.uk (Steve Unsworth) ([Leica] Re: RF / SLR)
Message from jayanand at gmail.com (Jayanand Govindaraj) ([Leica] Re: RF / SLR)