Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2007/01/07
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]At 12:01 AM 1/8/2007, Brian Reid wrote: >Both the Apple Airport device and the Linksys router are quite capable >of launching and maintaining ISP connections entirely on their own. >They just have to be told to do it, which, alas, requires actual >reading of actual documentation. > >The right way to think about these devices is quite simple. The DSL or >cablemodem provides a connection for one computer. These devices have >an "inside" and an "outside". On the outside, they connct to the DSL >or cablemodem and pretend to be a computer; on the inside, they offer >connections to your computers and pretend to be your ISP. Those inside >connections can be either wired or wireless. The Apple device has one >wired connection and can do 12 wireless; the Linksys device has four wired >connections and can do 11 wireless. > >If it is not configured properly, it is quite possible that it needs >at least one computer connected on the inside. > >Despite being a Mac user and Apple bigot, I am a big fan of Linksys >and tell all of my friends and relatives to buy them. My current >favorite is the WRT54G. > >A brand new Linksys WRT54G router can be had for about US$55 pretty >much anywhere in North America, and it comes with the ability to >configure itself automatically for nearly every ISP and cable company. >If I were charged with solving this problem, I would value my time at >$60/hour, assume that it would take me more than one hour to diagnose >and repair the configuraton problem, and treat the thing as >disposable. The "setup wizard" that ships with modern Linksys routers >is worth its weight in >gold. I'm mostly with Brian. I have had horrible problems with Linksys modems but these eventually were resolved when I finally, as Brian said, read the documentation and thought about what it was telling me to do. (This was telling me to power everything down, then power back up, starting with the cable modem, then with the various computers. Voila! The system did produce those magic numbers and all computers clicked into place. We never did get our printers and scanners on the system, but that wasn't vital, as I'm awash in scanners and printers and so be it. I also have little time for Mac. I am forced to use this gear on occasion, and I still feel that it is the sort of goo-goo stuff suitable for very young children and very old people. The rest of us, those who can think, are capable of using IBM stuff. I am NOT saying this to start a fight and please do NOT rise to the bait: we IBM users have to hear constant honking denunciations from the very young and the very old about how lousy OUR gear is. We keep our peace. Please keep yours. I am mainly saying this to establish that I live in a certifed Mac-Free Household. (My wife, who is a senior management nurse type in an HMO, has never even used one save for a single demo a decade or so back when she was a CNO of a small hospital. She lives, breathes, and works IBM all the day long and often most of the night, but Mac is not in her playlist.) Again, I am NOT trying to get a fight started. After my wacky experience with Linksys (and Brian was involved when we first were trying to set this up, and his advice, to read the manual, was vital!), I went to my Computer Guru and told him that my wife wanted us to have a WIRELESS hookup in our new home in Chester, VA. He immediately suggested a $65 D-Link wireless router. The following weekend I was in Chester and set up the router and turned it on. It ran fine. Then I hard-wired my wife's computer (a Pentium IV) into it -- Tina, your "blue cable" -- and that worked fine. The following week, I brought down MY computer with its yet-unused wireless card. I set it up. I turned it on. My wife's computer, the hard-wired one, was turned off. Mine immediately found the wireless modem, did a handshake, and we've been happily annoying the LUG for four months or so on a wireless hookup. I now have my Pentium 2 computer here but I've not yet found the box in which it is hiding. That one has a plug-in USB wireless connection, and I'm curious as to whether that will work when I set that one up downstairs. A few side comments. Laptops are all the rage but they are not entirely satisfactory from my experience as computers. Their design requires compromise, and many folks simply are not interested in using them despite their sexy appeal to those addicted to high-end TV shows. Some laptops have no issues with linking up to a net, while others seem to be a bit more conflicted. And, as my wife reminds me whenever she is forced to use hers, "the damn keyboard is tiny and there's no number pad". I escaped from the laptop mania more than a decade ago. Just be careful about connectivity issues with some laptops. Some are easy, some are harder. Yours are Macs, Tina, and I suspect those have no such problems. In summary: your system should consist of a cable modem supplied by your cable company. To this you connect a wireless modem, probably by a coax cable. This wireless modem will permit you either to directly wire Ethernet-equipped computers into it with the appropriate cables or will allow computers with a wireless card to connect with it. There should be no need at all for that hard-wired blue-cable computer to have any role in this. <sigh> The Microsoft answer would be: power down in order, turning off the items farthest from the cable modem first. Once everything is off, disconnect and deep-six the blue-wired laptop. Take the blue wire out of the wireless router and mail the cable to a deserving party in India. Then turn the power back on. First, the cable modem. Then the wireless router. Then your outstation computers -- the ones hooked in by wireless. Wireless seems to work out to 100 meters (330 feet or so) without much problem though it can get dicey beyond that. I had some fun the final few weeks in Roanoke when I was trying to slip onto someone else's cable connection with my Pentium 2. I managed it a couple of times, but it was shaky as the daylights, and I never got it to support audio feeds. I have no magic answers. But I am sending you this through a wireless connection, so it CAN work. And my wife's computer is off right now. Marc msmall@aya.yale.edu Cha robh b?s fir gun ghr?s fir!