Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2006/10/29

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Subject: [Leica] Epson R-D1 vs. M8?
From: richard-lists at imagecraft.com (Richard)
Date: Sun Oct 29 11:59:41 2006
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I expect a good number of current R-D1 owners (including myself) would be 
able to partially fund a M8 by selling the R-D1, so here goes. Keep in mind 
that I have never seen an M8 in person.

PROs with R-D1
- you can get one used for about 1/3 or less of a new M8. People talked 
about M8 killing M7/MP sales? M8 will kill most new R-D1 sales (not that it 
has been high anyway) for a while...
- 6MP is pretty darn good. The image quality (color fidelity etc.) is quite 
high.
- It's a capable M-style camera that will satisfy most every needs, except 
the "CON" list.
- That jog dial is brilliant. Wish the M8 has one.

CONs
- Relatively loud shutter. If a quiet SLR or a Bessa does not bother you, 
then there's no problem here.
- Slightly larger than an M.
- While it does feel solid, the weight distribution is... different or 
something. I get worse shake with the R-D1 than with the Ms, particularly 
on the vertical shots.
- RF viewfinder not as good as M and goes out of alignment easily, 
especially in the vertical side. Fortunately, you can fix the vertical 
alignment problem yourself.

Summary: I have shot over 15000 pictures with mine. If it stops working 
tomorrow, that's probably worth the cost of film saved already.

At 06:37 AM 10/29/2006, Rob McClure wrote:

>For those who have used both an R-D1 and M8 -- how much actual difference 
>is there in the feel and image quality?  I really like the idea of 
>a  digital rangefinder capable of using Leica M glass.
>However,  $6000 is cost prohibitive for me and I'll bet for many other 
>"advanced amateurs".  Used R-D1 are priced within my grasp.  What am I 
>giving up for the $4000 difference?  I figure that the digital technology 
>in either camera will be obsolete long before the hardware wears out.
>
>Rob McClure

// richard (This email is for mailing lists. To reach me directly, please 
use richard at imagecraft.com) 


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