Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2006/09/17
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Gene, Yes on an M7. No on an M8. Want to bet a six pack on it ;-) The universal wide finder does not compensate for the "crop factor". There is no interface with the camera except for a shoe mount. The internal finder does compensate, of course. Cheers Hoppy -----Original Message----- From: lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org [mailto:lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of grduprey@mchsi.com Sent: Monday, 18 September 2006 01:02 To: Leica Users Group Subject: RE: [Leica] Tri Elmar M 16-18-21 mm F4 ASPH lens Looking at the dial on the new finder, it looks like you set the focal lenght for the actual focal length for the camera. And that is what I also got reading the DPreviw artical and the lit from Leica on their site. Gene -------------- Original message from "G Hopkinson" <hoppyman@bigpond.net.au>: -------------- > Gene, what about on an M7 > What about the current 21 on an M8? > > -----Original Message----- > From: lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org > [mailto:lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of > grduprey@mchsi.com > Sent: Saturday, 16 September 2006 15:01 > To: Leica Users Group > Subject: RE: [Leica] Tri Elmar M 16-18-21 mm F4 ASPH lens > > Actually Hoppy, you set the finder for the focal lenght of the lens you > are > attaching, as Tom alluded to several posts ago. > > Gene > > > -------------- Original message from "G Hopkinson" : > -------------- > > > > And the quoted price for lens and universal wide angle finder is 3,500 > > Euro. > > Actually when you read the spec more carefully, that finder will display > > 5 > > frames (all singly), being 16, 18, 21, 24 & 28. Since > > there's no interface with the camera (except for a mounting foot) I > > guess you > > need to remember which to select on the M7 etc or M8. > > > > So for M8: > > with the new Tri-Elmar you set 16, 18 or 21 but you actually get 21, 24 > > or 28 > > effectively. > > If you fit the current 21 you'd need to set 28. For the 24, 28 and up > > you use > > the camera's finder. > > > > For the M7 and earlier, you can use 16, 18 or 21 as 16, 18, or 21 > > For the current 21, 24 and 28 you can set 21, 24, or 28 > > For 28 (.72 & lower) and up you can use the camera finder. > > > > My brain hurts, I need to lie down now. > > > > Cheers Hoppy > > 51 this year or 68 effective with crop factor. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org > > [mailto:lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org] On Behalf > > Of > > grduprey@mchsi.com > > Sent: Saturday, 16 September 2006 13:41 > > To: Leica Users Group > > Subject: RE: [Leica] Tri Elmar M 16-18-21 mm F4 ASPH lens > > > > The Leica web site has all the info on it also. Considering the cost of > > the > > Zeiss single/double lens finders compared to the tri > > finder from Leica, can't be that bad. And then it is the only finder you > > would > > need. > > > > Gene > > > > > > -------------- Original message from "G Hopkinson" : > > -------------- > > > > > > > Mark the specs and brochure are released, at least to user forum > > > members. I > > > guess they must be in wide circulation by now. > > > It does look yummy. Its Dimensions and weight > > > Length to bayonet flange approx. 63mm > > > Largest diameter approx. 55mm > > > Weight approx. 350g > > > For us metric folks. > > > > > > But you are going to have to buy the horrendously complex and > > > expensive > super > > > finder thingie to go with it. > > > > > > Cheers > > > Hoppy > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org > > > [mailto:lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org] On Behalf > > > Of > > > Mark Rabiner > > > Sent: Friday, 15 September 2006 10:44 > > > To: lug@leica-users.org > > > Subject: [Leica] Tri Elmar M 16-18-21 mm F4 ASPH lens > > > > > > http://www.dpreview.com/articles/leicam8/ > > > !!!!!!!~!!!!! > > > > > > I'm not seeing any mention of this mouth watering hot little volcano > > > of an > > > item as part of the dpreview article on the M8. I wonder if anyone > > > bothered > > > turning the page!!!?!. > > > I think we're all to busy playing with our DSLR's to bother with > > > what's > > > happening with Leica. > > > > > > On your M8 it becomes an 21-24-28 mm. > > > > > > Film M users might clamor for a 21-24-28 mm. Putting it mildly. > > > Could get them to learn to love the digital revolution. > > > To go with their 16-18-21 mm which has revolutionized their Leica film > > > shooting. > > > Not that THAT would NOT also revolutionize their film shooting. > > > As they've promised it covers a whole hunk of 24x36mm flim. > > > > > > But sooner or later it will be interesting and I think it will be > > > after > > > another year that Leica makes a lens optimized for the 1.33 "format". > > > With advantages in the compactness end as well as the quality of the > > > other > > > end as its an optic designed around a much smaller image circle. And > > > can > > > thus be made to produce a higher quality image in that area. > > > Smaller the circle the higher the resolution and so on are going to > > > be. > > > Some of us may not know that. Glass which covers medium format as in > > > 6x6cm > > > do not have the rez in a 24x36 area tat a lens designed for that > > > format has. > > > And its obvious a medium format lens is nowhere near as compact as > > > lenses > > > made for 35. > > > > > > I've been loving using my 55-200mm F/4-5.6G ED AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor > > > lens. > > > Featherweight and incredibly compact. > > > Its an 80-300 which looks like a 105 2.5 or 80 or smaller. > > > Especially if you leave the lens shade off. > > > The guy across the street would have no idea you were getting a tight > > > headshot of his Pomeranian. > > > > > > Or Shih Tzu. > > > > > > Or Brussels Griffon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mark Rabiner > > > > > > 40?46'58.65"N 73?49'31.68"W > > > Whitestone NY 11357 > > > > > > http://rabinergroup.com/ > > >