Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2006/08/08
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]I know that you will, so I have a confession but Pentax digitals still rock and rule! :-) The Pentax isDS tavern photo which I showed you a week or so ago, and which I maintained was shot at 1600 ISO, and which showed no noise, was discovered by someone looking at the EXIF data to be shot at ISO 400. http://www.half-fast.com/TavernRoom.jpg At the time I took the photo in April, that room was so dark that I distinctly remember setting the ISO to 1600 in order to get a decent result. I even considered 3200 at the time but settled on 1600. So this was a big surprise to me and gave me a red face, but not having ever bothered to learn anything about EXIF, I couldn't argue with the data. I set out yesterday to try to determine what happened and shot these at around 6:45 AM EDT in my living room, with lighting approximately the same as that in the tavern room. The photos are at ISO 200, 400, 800, 1600 and 3200... running left to right. http://www.half-fast.com/ISO-Tests-isDS/ Here's the ISO 400 tavern photo again for comparison: http://www.half-fast.com/TavernRoom.jpg All were shot with manual focusing, (on the book case) and with manual exposure. The camera was on a tripod for all the shots. The photos are unfooled around with, that is, they were shot as RAW and then converted to Photoshop PSD files and then into jpegs. No sharpening was applied and no Photoshop adjustments were made. I still don't know a lot about EXIF, but I now know that when I use the Web Photo Gallery creator in Photoshop, that the EXIF data is lost. Accordingly the JPEGs with EXIF data are here. http://www.half-fast.com/ISO-Tests-isDS/VariousISO-JPEGs/ I don't know how the data can be seen without opening them with Photoshop, but I suspect that there must be some software out there somewhere to see it online: Yesterday afternoon I went out to the Hartwell Tavern in Minuteman National Historical Park. As I thought, the natural lighting in the room has changed since April as it was a bit brighter. And, the room was inhabited. The gentleman seen in the photos is one of the staff in period dress and he was busy giving narratives to the visitors to Hartwell Tavern whenever he wasn't working on a pair of buckskin "britches". I learned that the 19 year old wife of Mr. Hartwell had five children in four years, lost all of them within thirty days in a diphtheria epidemic, but then went on to have nine more children who all survived into adulthood. http://www.half-fast.com/TavernRoom-ISO-Tests-isDS/ Here's the old ISO 400 tavern photo again for comparison: http://www.half-fast.com/TavernRoom.jpg As with the photos of my living room in the morning, all of these were shot with manual focusing, and with manual exposure... but I wasn't allowed to use a tripod. Please let me know if you see any noise in any of them. Even though I really wanted to correct the perspective, do a little dodging on the furniture in the background, and apply a bit of sharpening... as in the morning photos, these are also unfooled around with. The JPEGs with EXIF data are here: http://www.half-fast.com/TavernRoom-ISO-Tests-isDS/TavernRoom-VariousISO-JPEGs/ NOTE: I think that I now know why I had thought that the tavern photo shot in April was ISO 1600. While shooting the others this afternoon I noticed after "changing" the ISO to 800, that it hadn't changed. When I want to change the ISO, I need to press the up/down button to switch between the five ISO settings, and then I have to press the OK button. I think that I must have not pressed the OK that day in April, but assumed that it was shot at ISO 1600, and then never noticed that it was really ISO 400 because I hadn't looked into accessing the EXIF date. At any rate, I continue to maintain that there's almost no noise in the photos from the isDS digital, especially when compared to Canons and Nikons. It appears to me that since "I am amasing a nice assortment of Super Tacky's in advance of purchasing one of these puppies.", that you perhaps agree with me now. ;-) I'm beginning to like this EXIF stuff, but nevertheless, I apologize for not getting things right the first time. Jim, "You can call me Mister EXIF" Hemenway