Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2005/04/25

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Subject: [Leica] [MUGers] Pisa at 7AM/ Recent Steam
From: ricc at mindspring.com (Ric Carter)
Date: Mon Apr 25 15:35:53 2005
References: <200504252014.j3PKBY45054240@server1.waverley.reid.org>

Hey Doug--

I tell you, if you'd just spend a little time in PhotoShop and 
straighten up that tower thingy, you'd have one fine foto there ;-)

Ric Carter
Garner, NC



On Apr 25, 2005, at 4:14 PM, lug-request@leica-users.org wrote:

> Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 08:59:58 -0700
> From: Henning Wulff <henningw@archiphoto.com>
> Subject: Re: [Leica] [MUGers] Pisa at 7AM/ Recent Steam
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> At 1:34 AM +0200 4/25/05, Douglas Sharp wrote:
>> Hello all,
>>
>> Some early morning shots of Pisa, Italy. Leica M6 + Voigtlaender 15mm.
>> Please don't point out the "verticals" (grin).
>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/New-Old-Pictures/Image3_4_edited_2
>> (Palazzo in the shade)
>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/New-Old-Pictures/Image4_1_edited_2
>> (The famous tower)
>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/New-Old-Pictures/Image3_3_edited_2
>> (Early bird and the tower)
>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/New-Old-Pictures/Image1_8_edited_2  
>> (Basilica)
>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/New-Old-Pictures/Image1_7_edited_2
>> (Tower and Basilica)
>
> Hi Douglas,
>
> It's interesting to see Pisa, but there are some disturbing things
> about the pictures:
>
> First, Pisa is definitely a place where you have to make sure your
> horizon is straight and level, because that is what your pictures of
> the tower reference to.
>
> Secondly, when you correct for verticals (ie, reducing keystoning
> when your film plane is not parallel with the subject) make _very_
> sure you don't overcorrect. When shooting architectural subjects with
> a shift lens or with a view camera, the basic rule is that you can
> correct up to having parallel verticals, but never overcorrect. With
> strong correction, it looks best if you back off a bit and leave a
> slight bit of keystoning.
>
> Only Image1_8_edited_2 doesn't show either of these problems. A way
> that you can tell if you've over corrected is if the top of the tower
> is wider on the picture than the bottom, if both are in fact the same
> width.
>
> If you've used a lens like the 12 or 15, and have just cropped the
> photos to get these pictures, then you aimed the camera below the
> horizon. That will produce the same effect.
>
> -- 
>     *            Henning J. Wulff
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