Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2005/01/27
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Douglas and Karen wrote: Leica should get into the used camera business.Buy up all >>the second hand stuff CLA, re-box and re-sell it with a guarantee,at least >>we'd be sure of the quality. > > Leica is indeed doing this. They're going to be offering a certified > pre-owned service soon. No kidding. News in the latest LFI. Seth sez: Had I mentioned to the list that I wrote Hanns-Peter Cohn in October 2000 suggesting exactly this and suggesting too what became the a la carte program? Though my idea in suggesting a "made to order" program was to be able to offer M6's at a REDUCED price e.g. without meter, to broaden the market. My understanding is that attachments are not allowed on the LUG list so I am taking the liberty of putting my letter in text below for those interested. It is three or so pages so delete if you don't want to read. 31 October 2000 Herr Hanns-Peter Cohn Chairman and CEO, Leica Camera AG Oskar-Barnack-Strasse 11 D-35606 Solms, DEUTSCHLAND Dear Herr Cohn: Thank you for asking Lothar Koelsch to respond to my 13 April 2000 letter to you about the Leica 50mm Summicron lenses. His information has been very helpful. Three weeks ago I attended my first annual meeting of the Leica Historical Society of America. Having with great pleasure used Leicas since my boyhood, it was great fun finally to meet Leica photographers and enthusiasts, among them Stefan Daniel who spoke very well to the group. Some thoughts of members expressed at the meeting and that I have read in Viewfinder magazine and on the Internet Leica Users Group give me serious concern about the feelings of those people who should be Leica's best customers. Leica Camera AG is the heir to a great photographic and optical tradition. It must obviously concern itself with the present and the future, given the economic and financial realities of today's world markets. It must also keep in its collective, corporate mind and heart the emotions and desires of a very diverse, not always consistent, group of photographers of different ages, talents and artistic and commercial sensibilities. Many at the LHSA meeting loved the new null series Leica. Others said it is an anachronism having no meaning. I happen to believe it a wonderful effort to demonstrate Leica Camera's awareness of and dedication to its history and tradition, especially if the camera can awaken in enough people a love of the early Leica, at the same time finding a small niche market that can make money for the Company. Commercial success is, after all, essential for Leica's continuing life. A recent posting on the LUG raised a very interesting possibility which is a main purpose of this letter: given the high price of Leica cameras and lenses, can Leica Camera offer buyers the option of ordering custom-built cameras? If it were feasible from a production standpoint, why not offer a standard M6 without TTL and even without internal metering? After all, there are many professional and advanced amateur photographers who are so adept and experienced that they can accurately estimate Herr Hanns-Peter Cohn 31 October 2000 Page Two exposure without a meter or prefer to use a separate hand-held meter. I presume such a camera would be significantly less expensive to manufacture. The buyer could then be offered a base camera with many options: internal meter, TTL flash, a cast metal top-plate with black or silver chrome finish or a brass top-plate with black paint or titanium finish, with choice of viewfinder magnification, an M3 or M4/M6 film advance lever, etcet. all as extra-cost options. As one member observed at the LHSA meeting, it is annoying to pay a great additional cost for limited production black paint (equivalent to the cost of some fine cameras) that doesn't really cost that much more to produce (I am aware that the brass top plate is more costly than the cast top plate) rather than to order it as an extra cost option for custom order production. Such a program would certainly require some rearrangement of production but it would give the Company greater control over the final customer retail sale price (giving the dealer a commission on his sale at your price) and might even result in better information on customer demand. The customer would have to wait for his order to be filled as a custom-built machine but I believe that many, perhaps most, Leica customers would be more than willing to wait for a camera built to their order. A second suggestion is one that I made to Stefan at the Boston meeting. Several of the high-end automobile manufacturers - Mercedes, BMW, Jaguar and Lexus among them - have developed programs where they purchase used cars of their marque, restore them to excellent condition and sell them with factory warranties. It provides an additional source of income and, more important, a new customer base of people who cannot afford a new BMW, Mercedes, etcet., who are apprehensive of buying a used car from the owner but who would love to own their first BMW, Mercedes etcet. These customers, once in a BMW, will later buy another new BMW. Such a program for Leica Camera would mean a significant expansion in service capability (that should be in Solms only, not local e.g. Leica Northvale or Argenteuil or Milton Keynes or Nihon Siber Hegner) so that you can advertise Solms service as the restorer). As you know, there is an exceptionally active used Leica market and in addition to your own local service facilities there a number of very fine independent Leica repair people in several countries. Still, it seems to me that this is an opportunity for you to Herr Hanns-Peter Cohn 31 October 2000 Page Three develop a new and steady income stream and a new group of photographers to whom the Leica name is a legend but who are not sufficiently well-informed to find reliable used Leica cameras and lenses but who would be comfortable buying Leica-warrantied used cameras and lenses. [Sincerely yours, etc.] I understand how this required revising production and planning marketing but four years is a bit long to have implemented these two ideas. They really need to look at a la carte pricing and think about lower prices to broaden market. That said, I certainly hope these two programs help Leica address their sales and financial issues. Seth LaK 9