Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2004/07/05

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Subject: [Leica] New York Times anonymous fine art photography Now Mark's screw up
From: feli at creocollective.com (Feli di Giorgio)
Date: Mon Jul 5 13:11:34 2004
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On Mon, 2004-07-05 at 12:57, Adam Bridge wrote:
> I read that they aren't QUITE the savings you'd think...on the order
> of 30% as I recall. But just having BOTH blacks and not having to
> change so often would be really nice. It's also faster. But it's big
> and heavy (80 pounds or so) which means getting it upstairs to my
> studio will be a pain. Not that I'm not wanting to invest in the
> effort you understand!



I was looking at getting an Epson 2200 (ended up with a 1280 and the
Piezography system instead), but the big turn off was the huge cost of
the ink cartridges. I have seen 3rd party ink kits for the 2200, but if
you want to stick with Epson's Ultrachrome inks you have to be a little
more clever. After a little research I came up with this.

http://www.mediastreet.com/cgi-bin/tame/mediastreet/n3.tam?&prd=2200

I have read that people are buying the above kit and are filling the 
bottles with the Ultrachrome ink from the large Epson 7600/9600/10600 
cartridges.

Supposedly the Epson 2200 cartridge has maybe 20ml of ink in it. If you
are only making the occasional 8x10 print of your dog that's fine, but
if you are doing bigger prints (especially on matte paper) and in any
kind of volume you are going to need a second job to pay for the ink.

So, it seems that some people are buying the empty Niagra CIS setup.
Then they get the Ultrachrome ink cartridges from Epson's large format
printers like the 7600/9600 and 10600, which contain between 110 and 220
ml of ink! You can get the 110ml cartridges for as little as $60 bucks
and the 220ml are an even better deal.

Inside the big cartridges the ink is stored in a plastic sack. You cut
the cartridge open, remove the sack which is drained into your CIS ink
bottle. I don't know if all of the cartridges use a plastic sack to
store the ink, but you could always drill two small holes (one for
draining, one for breathing) in to the cartridge and drain it that way.

I haven't tried this myself, but it sounds like it would work.


Feli





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