Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2003/12/23

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Subject: Re: [Leica] Go to the front of the line
From: "Slobodan Dimitrov" <s.dimitrov@charter.net>
Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 10:49:46 -0800

Actually, I meant it as between the Europeans themselves. Such as East-West,
North-South, and everything in between.
S. Dimitrov

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>From: Daniel Ridings <daniel.ridings@muspro.uio.no>
>To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
>Subject: Re: [Leica] Go to the front of the line
>Date: Tue, Dec 23, 2003, 9:46 AM
>

> Yes, so true so true.
>
> Here in Sweden I see politicians (mostly local ones) doing things that
> anyone with the slightest sense of history would realize was a mistake.
> The US, as in so many other things, was a forerunner when it comes to
> tackling racial issues. It was simply forced to ... the issues were there.
>
> Europe was, at the time, fairly homogenic. Pasta was exotic in Sweden at
> that time, putting a cucumber or tomato on your sandwich was simply
> unheard of ... not done.
>
> Now Europe is acquiring a multicultural mix and is going to face, probably
> 50-60 years later, the same problems the US was faced with in the sixties.
>
> So what do Swedish (local/county) politicians do? The refugees come. They
> come from anywhere in the world that has been hit by conflict, Africa, the
> Balkans, the Middle East, Vietnam, you name it. The politicians build a
> bunch of housing in the sixties a day-late-and-a-dollar-short. Slam-bam,
> throw 'em up.
>
> No noone who can afford it wants to live there. In fact, before the
> refugees came, they were starting to tear them down. But some smart guy
> said: "Hey, we can accept all kinds of refugees, get money from the
> national budget and stick these people out in the housing areas no one
> wants to live in. We can actually make money off of that crap instead of
> tearing them down."
>
> So now these areas are 100% refugee populated (ok, maybe 98%). Talk about
> "planned-ghetto-making".
>
> So what do they do? They start to bus the kids around, close local schools
> and send the kids across town. Go to a PTA meeting concerned with the
> local school being closed down and say "We're ashamed of this" ... can you
> imagine? Addressing the parents of the children and telling them that you
> are ashamed of them?
>
> Ticking bomb, tick, tick.
>
> Daniel Ridings
> Lindome Sweden, Oslo Norway
>
>
> On Tue, 23 Dec 2003, Slobodan Dimitrov wrote:
>
>> Addressing the intra-european racial/ethnic tensions will go a long way on
>> making some head way on that road.
>> S. Dimitrov
>>
>> >From: "B. D. Colen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net>
>> >To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
>> >Subject: RE: [Leica] Go to the front of the line
>> >Date: Tue, Dec 23, 2003, 8:02 AM
>> >
>>
>> > It is so reassuring to know that America's racial problems were solved
>> > in the 60's, and that we can eliminate affirmative action and other
>> > because black Americans are now living their lives on an even playing
>> > field.... ;-)
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