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Subject: RE: [Leica] XXX of the YYY? WAS (something else) (fwd)
From: Daniel Ridings <daniel.ridings@muspro.uio.no>
Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 08:06:52 +0100 (MET)
References: <200311280408.hAS48Jv29192@perch.serverhost.net>

I don't know if he called it so. Without Ferdinand de Saussure with his
"langue" and "parole" Chomsky wouldn't have gotten very far (he calls it
"competence" (langue) and "performance" (parole).

The only thing Chomsky added to Saussure was a mathematical icing.

Daniel


On Thu, 27 Nov 2003, Kit McChesney wrote:

> Actually, didn't Ferdinand de Saussure invent structural linguistics in the
> 1920s? That's what I learned in graduate school.
>
> Kit
>
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>
> Marc,
>
> Chomsky pioneered and developed generative and transformational
> linguistics.   Structural linguistics was the current fad that he was
> rebelling against in the 50's.  I agree with everything else you say about
> his work, just not that terminology.
>
> Bob
>
>
>
> Chomsky's seminal academic work was in the 1950's when he developed what is
> now Structural Linguistics as a distinct field.  And one of the first
> paradigms he developed for structural linguistics was that the only perfect
> grammar of a language was a compendium of all possible sentences which
> could be stated in that language.  Simple.  Brilliant.  Definitive.  And
> absolutely new.  He completely converted the writing of grammars from an
> inductive process of ADDING on to a deductive process of building a
> construct which would accomodate all of those sentences.
>
> Traditional linguists hated (and continue to hate) structural linguistics
> but it does have a place.  And, yes, Chomsky, in his field, is a genius.  I
> find that his commentaries on political, social, and artistic issues range
> from bland to banal.
>
> Marc
>
> msmall@infionline.net  FAX:  +540/343-7315
> Cha robh bąs fir gun ghrąs fir!
>
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