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Subject: Re: [Leica] DEADLINE I*AQ -answering Jerry's inane remark
From: Jerry Lehrer <jerryleh@pacbell.net>
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 19:43:26 -0800
References: <3FC25BDE.4020704@osheaven.net> <LNBBLBNFHNEHGFKFMALGOEBOIOAB.tim@KairosPhoto.com> <13839301516.20031124185816@sonc.com> <3FC2AD4B.34A8DB83@pacbell.net> <10843176908.20031124200251@sonc.com>

Sonny

No, sonny-boy, I have seen how they work here in San Diego. The
TV cameraman just aims the camera where he/ she is told to.

Your contention may very well be true in other areas.  Please notice
that I said that TV stations HERE, do that.  Other places do have
true PJs.  You, very well, may be one of them.

Jerry

Sonny Carter wrote:

> Monday, November 24, 2003, 5:15:55 PM, you wrote:
>
> JL>  Sonny
>
> JL> Some TV stations here have the nerve to call the camera holders "Photo
> JL> Journalists"!  All they do is point the camera where the reporter or director
> JL> tells them to!
>
> JL> Jerry
>
> Jerry,
>
> I like to think you are wrong about that.  If you have that attitude, you denigrate
> some really fine journalists
> who happen to be photographers rather than reporters.
>
> Many times, the photographer is the one to get the story, a producer writes it and
> an anchor reads it.
>
> That said, in many many markets there is no team, just the reporter/cameraman
> (one person) out there doing the job.
>
> For a number of years, I covered the Louisiana Legislature without a
> reporter along.   I covered the Clay Shaw Trial in New Orleans without
> a reporter.  I covered the Black Panther Shoot-out in Desire Project
> without a reporter.
>
> I covered the Christmas Day fire in New Orleans that killed three
> firemen without a reporter.
>
> There were many more instances, but it was more often me showing the
> reporter what to do than the other way around.
>
> Finally, I would tell you that when I worked on the Jim Metcalf
> Journal at WWL-TV, I would shoot the piece, and Jim would look at my
> film and write the story.  For work like that we won one of Channel 4's several
> Peabody Awards.
>
>   Sonny
>   http://www.sonc.com
>
> JL> Sonny Carter wrote:
>
> >> Hello Tim,
> >>
> >> I'd like to point out that in television "Camera operators"
> >> designates fixed camera positions, such as
> >> you might find in a studio.
> >>
> >> Although I am no longer in that number, even though we stopped
> >> using motion picture film for news coverage,
> >> those of us who continued with video camera, continued to call
> >> ourselves news photographers.  A few use the term "news
> >> videographer."
> >>
> >> I know you want to maintain accuracy.
> >>
> >> Sonny
> >>
> >> Monday, November 24, 2003, 4:04:30 PM, you wrote:
> >>
> >> TA> Those of you north of the border (or south who are close enough to it to get
> >> TA> CBC) - this is a very compelling documentary about news gathering in the
> >> TA> Ira* Wa*.
> >>
> >> TA> "These are the stories that weren't't told by the media during the Ira* wa*.
> >> TA> CBC NEWS goes straight to the source, to journalists, camera operators and
> >> TA> photographers from news organizations around the world, who reveal the
> >> TA> lethal risks they faced,
> >> TA> as well as the untold horrors they witnessed."
> >>
> >> TA> There was a one hour version on last night. The full two hour version is
> >> TA> supposed on next Sunday on CBC at 10pm I think.
> >>
> >> TA> tim
> >>
> >> TA> --
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> >>
> >> --
> >> Best regards,
> >>  Sonny                            mailto:sonc@sonc.com
> >>
> >> --
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>
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> --
> Best regards,
>  Sonny                            mailto:sonc@sonc.com
>
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