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Subject: Re: [Leica] something something and now animals
From: "Jack Herron" <jackherron@cox.com>
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 19:36:51 -0700
References: <C4960A46-0B19-11D8-9DEE-0050E42E6E0B@shaw.ca>

Would that this was the only case.  Here in Tucson, PETA torched a ten story
lab on  the UofA campus.  Arson of an occupied  structure is a class three
felony, the equivalent of homicide.  A bit past intimidation, I would say.
alas, this is not their only arson.

Jack C. Herron
8118 E. 20th St.
Tucson, AZ 85710
520 885-6933
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From: "John Collier" <jbcollier@shaw.ca>
To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 1:43 PM
Subject: Re: [Leica] something something and now animals


> I would tend to agree, based on the facts you have given, that PETA and
> others are going too far in this case. However you also have to
> remember there are many horrific stories on the other side as well.
>
> John Collier
>
> On Thursday, October 30, 2003, at 12:41 PM, Barney Quinn wrote:
>
> >> I welcome the pressure PETA and others
> >> have put on the scientific and cosmetic industries to improve their
> >> practices. I also agree that, as with all radicals, PETA and others
> >> often go to far.
> >
> > I have a friend. My friend has two Doctor's level degrees. This person
> > is a
> > very high level medical researcher, internationally known, Ivy league,
> > Nobel
> > prize material. The work this person does involves animals. PETA and
> > similar
> > groups have, for years, made life for this person a living hell. There
> > have
> > been times when getting in and out of the lab has been impossible. This
> > individuals home has been picketed, and familly members have been
> > harrassed
> > with out mercy, particularly the children. I find what has been done
> > to these
> > people totally inappropriate, outrageous, and counter productive. It
> > has not
> > done one single thing to help animals, and it has cost these groups the
> > support of everyone who has had to watch what has been done to this
> > family
> > while they were trying to support them. If you are opposed to cruelty
> > then I
> > think that you have to be consistant about it. If you have never been
> > on the
> > other side of these tactics it may be impossible for you to understand
> > what
> > they actually do to people.
>
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