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Subject: RE: [Leica] New photos
From: "bdcolen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net>
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2003 19:10:36 -0400

Diane Arbus was a photographic forerunner of Jerry Springer. 

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From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
[mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of tripspud
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 6:54 PM
To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
Subject: Re: [Leica] New photos


Hi Jerry,

      Check the library for D. Arbus's books.  I read her daughter's
biography some time back.  She was a rich kid who didn't want to run
with the family business, which I think was department store(s)?

     Photos like Jewish giant at home, lots of 'little' people, not sure
if 'midget' is still pc, boy in Central Park with toy handgarnade,
transvettites at home.  She liked to met people and go to their homes
for the photos.

      I don't find her photos offensive.  I find Jerry Springer
offensive.

Cheers,

Rich Lahrson
Berkeley, California
tripspud@transbay.net

Jerry Lehrer wrote:

> Johnny
>
> I may be out of the loop, but I don't remember seeing any of her 
> photos.  What did she shoot?  When? Where?  Or maybe I have seen her 
> photos without associating her name with them.
>
> Jerry
>
> Johnny Deadman wrote:
>
> > Well I'm glad we've dispensed with Diane Arbus that easily. I am 
> > sure she would speak very highly of your photography as well.
> >
> > On Tuesday, September 2, 2003, at 04:32 PM, bdcolen wrote:
> >
> > > Amen!
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> > > [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of Ken 
> > > Firestone
> > > Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 4:26 PM
> > > To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> > > Subject: Re: [Leica] New photos
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, 2 Sep 2003, Ted Grant wrote:
> > >
> > >    bdcolen offered:
> > >> I may come across at times as a mean, demented s.o.b, but no way
> > > would I
> > >> EVER do to people what she did to her victims, uh, subjects.:-)
> > >>
> > >> B. D.
> > >> Not A Diane Arbus Fan<<<<
> > >
> > >    Hi B.D.,
> > >    Well you can chalk me up big time as another non-admirer of her

> > > degrading
> > >    pictures of unfortunate human beings. Regardless what some 
> > > people think are
> > >    works of art!:-(
> > >
> > >    I've seen her as an opportunist taking advantage of human 
> > > beings who were
> > >    already being exploited by others and all she did was add to
the
> > >    exploitation.
> > >
> > >    Besides all she did was use the medium of photography to 
> > > capture the image
> > >    of these unfortunate souls and it didn't take any great 
> > > photographic eye or
> > >    skill to shoot what she did. Like stand there ... SNAP... next!

> > > Not much
> > >    talent required to do that.
> > >
> > > I had a freind once who during a discussion of Ms. Arbus expressed

> > > the opinion that she was crying with her subjects. She was pretty 
> > > messed up herself.
> > >
> > >
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> > > Ken Firestone, W3CAT     | For every problem there is one solution
> > > kenf@speakeasy.net     |  which is simple, neat, and wrong.
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