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Subject: Re: [Leica] Re: Digital back for Leica M, sequel, precision and so on
From: Grégoire Vandenschrick <gregoire.vds@skynet.be>
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2003 01:47:40 +0200
References: <BCEKKGNGDPMOIPMEJONBCECICKAA.phong@doan-ltd.com> <5.1.1.6.2.20030901153648.0c4cb618@mail.brick.org>

I find this answer to be quite rude, but maybe, as english is only a second
language for my, this is some sort of humour, I will take it so :-).

More seriously, for sure, if leica doesn't want to devellop this, it will be
difficult, for another problem is that any ccd has to be triggered too,
twice in fact. First to begin to accumulate electrons in the photosites,
second to begin to dump this info out of the ccd, treat it informatically
(mirror-redress the info if it is dumped from two corners, or from four
corners, then color-intensity corrected, then RGB assembled, and stocked in
raw format, tiff or bmp, and or compressed to jpeg). So, nothing can work if
the body is not slightly adapted to have this info given to the back.

for this purpose, I imagined a rather simple electrical circuit, normally
closed when nothing has to appen. In this circuit, two tiny switches, maybe
placed on the two rolls of curtains. the circuit could be opened instantly
at the begining of the first curtain, and at the begining of second curtain.
The digital back logic would have so the info of opening, and the info of
ending of exposure (having in mind the real end of the exposure is 1/45s
later than the beginning of the travel of the second curtain, but this is
electronically easy to do).

The real problem I currently face is the dimension of the ccd glass
protection, and how to nest the ccd in place of the film. We have the film
guide to have the ccd well aligned, but there is practically no place
between the ccd and the metal frame of the body. I wonder if a ccd can be
exposed directly, without any protective plate before it. any engineer
advice welcome.

I just read someone talking about the "huge amount of electronic" needed for
a digital camera. Have you seen the Canon Ixus 400, not so heavy, and there
are a lot of function not needed in this one, let's say motors for the
optic, place for retractable optic and so on. I'm rather confident
everything could be put in a case not bigger than a leicavit, firewire, usb
ports, slots for sony sd card (promising 1Gb of memory for next year),
batteries and so on.

don't forget that I try simply to think if it would be technically possible
to have this, I don't try to aggress people fond of film and technical. I
would be pleased not to be aggressed in return, but maybe the lug is not the
place to discuss digital leica m back, but it would be sad.

Best regard

Gregoire Vandenschrick
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From: "JCB" <jcb@visualimpressions.com>
To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 12:39 AM
Subject: [Leica] Re: Digital back for Leica M, sequel, precision and so on


> At 09:16 PM 9/1/2003 +0200, Grégoire Vandenschrick wrote:
>
> >I have two or three other trucks full of these thinkings if you want
about
> >the digital Leica M
> >
> >Best
> >
> >Gregoire Vandenschrick
>
>
> I suspect that the only possibility of any of your trucks full of ideas
> coming to fruition, is, if Leica has an interest.
>
> But I believe that you are urinating into the wind.
>
> JB
>
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