Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2003/08/23
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]bdcolen wrote: >Well, I may be missing something here, Gregie, but I don't see any >contradiction in what I've written. > Your right. In most of your posts to the LUG (and some "totally" not on the LUG posts) lately your missing common decency and common sense. > And I do not denigrate all things >Leica - only Leicadolatory. > I suggest you reread what you write and the original posts that precipitated your post. > If I wanted to denigrate all things Leica I >wouldn't own and use the equipment. > Just what is your excuse then? > I do find utterly ludicrous the myth >that if something is manufactured by Leica it automatically: >1. Is the best; >2. Is the perfect solution for every photographic situation, or every >photographer; >3. Makes one a competent photographer. > Just who is it that is posting this utterly ludicrous myth on the Lug? I don't seem to be receiving these posts. > >If my believing that, and stating it in various ways, suggests to you >that I denigrate all things Leica, you must assign far different >meanings to words than I. Which is of course your right. :-) > > Yes, your the Lug's original Rebel Without a Cause, but in this role your also frequently the major reason (cause) many people new to this list flock elsewhere. Regards, Greg > > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us >[mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of Greg J. >Lorenzo >Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 7:12 PM >To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us >Subject: Re: [Leica] digitalrebel > > >bdcolen in his ongoing desire to continually enlighten the rest of us >dimwits without B.D's "digital vision" wrote in part: > > > >>Steve - You miss the point, and manage to be patronizing while missing >>it - as usual.;-) >> >> >> > > > >>I have NOTHING against anyone being happy with what ever form of >>photographic equipment - from a Box Brownie to a gold-plated, ostrich >>skin-covered Leica MP meets their photographic needs. None what so >>ever. >> >> >> > > > >>And I have never written anything suggesting that I do. >> >> >> > >Now this explains it. Apparently you don't actually read what you write >before you post it to the list! > > > >>I have also >>repeatedly stated that I am still primarily using film in my own work, >>and understand that some people are not only loath to give up film, but >> >> > > > >>may never - more power to you, Steve. >> >> >> >Yes, repeatedly. Always in a post to the list where your major theme is >to denigrate all things Leica. > > > >>And I was not comparing the results obtainable with the latest >>generation of M lenses - results which are, when all is said and done, >>beyond the power of 99.9 percent of hand-held shooter to obtain ;-) - >>to digital results. What I am saying here is that it is utterly >>ludicrous for those who are using 40-50-60 year-old flare-prone, poorly >> >> > > > >>coated lenses that when they were new were not considered the best >>available and now don't even compare in image quality to the lenses SLR >> >> > > > >>manufactures sell as part of cheap packages, to be knocking digital >>quality. >> >> >> >Huh? Nothing patronizing about this statement. > > > >>Again, just say "I love film." If someone loves using an III C,, or III >> >> > > > >>F with a Summabeenobsoletefor50years or an >>Elmarcouldntproduceasharpimageswhenitcameoutoftheboxfivedecadesago, >>more power to them. But it sounds pretty silly for them to be knocking >>digital and digital cameras that in terms of pure lens and image >>quality are generations ahead of the equipment they're using. >> >> >> >> >Ditto! > > > >>B. D. >> >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us >>[mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of Steve >>LeHuray >>Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 2:56 PM >>To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us >>Subject: Re: [Leica] digitalrebel >> >> >>B.D.Colen sings the same old song: >> >> >> >> >>>Again, if you're happy with film and your Rs, great - just as I am >>>happy with my Ms and film for most of my serious work. But our >>>preferring film for some or all our work doesn't negate the truth >>>about where digital is now, or about the fact that many of those >>>blindly bashing the idea of going digital are using truly obsolete >>>equipment that produces subpar results - in fact that produces image >>>quality that can be bested by virtually any modern SLR using consumer >>>lenses, or, for that matter, can be bested by a Bessa R using Cosina >>>lenses costing less than $500. ;-) >>> >>>B. D. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>B.D. -- you have been banging the same old drum for several years now. >>Please explain what you have against those people who are happy with >>their Leicas. OK, a new M7 costs about $2700. Is it worth it? Probably >>not. But apparently it is to many who are buying them. A new Porsche >>911 Carrera costs about $80,000. Is it worth it? Apparently so, they >>cannot keep up with the orders. Are digicams great and the wave of the >>future? Yes I think they are. But so what? There are 10s of thousands >>of people who love their Leicas and really do not need you making them >>feel about about liking something. So now on your 57th (Happy Birthday >>BTW), how about you moving on to some other crusade that is more >>meaningful to you and something more important than your constant and >>meaningless Leica bashing. >> >>Best regards, >> >>sl >> >>-- >>To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html >> >>-- >>To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html >> >> >> >> >> > > >-- >To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html > >-- >To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html > > > - -- To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html