Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2003/08/14
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Ted - Does that mean that you do not look at books of photographs by world-renowned photographers who do not use Leicas? And does it mean that you don't go to galleries and museums to look at photographs unless they were shot with Leicas? Don't you understand, Ted, that there are as many crappy photos taken with Leicas, by inept photographers, as there are crappy photographs taken with any other kind of camera? And don't you understand that there are far more outstanding photographs taken with non-Leicas than there are outstanding photographs taken with Leicas - for the simple reason that there are not many people using Leicas any more? As I have said, I use Leicas and am interested in discussing them. But the day that I become such a brandaphile that I can say that I "don't really have any interest in what anyone takes with digital non-Leica or non-Leica related cameras" is the day that I walk away from photography - - because it will be obvious to me, if to no one else, that what I am interested in is a label, not a art. But if it will make those of you who feel the way Ted does any happier, from now on when I post images I'll label them all as Leica shots. After all, there is no chance in hell that you can tell the difference at 72 dpi and then you'll be happy because you'll be looking at Leica shots. And btw - I do shoot some color negative film in my Leicas, so the fact that I post a color image does NOT mean that it's digital. :-) B. D. - -----Original Message----- From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of Ted Bayer Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 4:28 PM To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us Subject: Re: [Leica] Re: No digital comments? Well, BD, Tilley hats and single malt Scotch just sort of fall into the chatter on this list - has been that way every since I joined. Watches and fountain pens, cookware and motorcycles, etc., etc., things like those come and go and I suppose it will always be that way. I had better leave women out of that mix - I would be in trouble either way I went. ;-) Digital this and that is another matter. I don't really have any interest in what anyone takes with digital non-Leica or non-Leica related cameras. And IMHO does not belong on this list. Take it to the Canon or Nikon or whatever list. On the other hand, I love to see the pictures Graham and Sonny takes with their Leica-related Panasonics. I look forward to seeing them. Others, like Tina, who use the Digilux 1, have also posted some excellent photos. And I welcome her 10D photos taken with Leica lenses. All of these fine folks have, from time to time, made comments or answered questions about their digital equipment which is most helpful. The recent ad nauseam discussion by br about his mighty Oly 5050 became almost too much, and drew some strong comments from at least one of the best of the best on this list. I for one thought those comments were right on the mark. Also, if someone wishes to post a PAW taken with another camera, from what I understand (and I hope I understand correctly), that is within the rules, and that's fine. Some interesting PAWs have been taken with many types of cameras. As for having discussed everything there is to discuss about Leica cameras and lenses - film or digital - on this list, well, that is your opinion and I know you will stick with it. I'm not so sure. Digital is moving into Leica territory - albeit slowly - and will garner a lot more attention over the next year or two. Sandwiched in there somewhere may be some other interesting developments in Leica film cameras and lenses. And there are always people new to Leica joining the list who have questions (yes, I know, they have been answered 10-to-the-1000th time! ) about their new equipment - and they should receive an answer to help them. About this list falling on hard times or dying out - I don't think so. Ted - ----- Original Message ----- From: "bdcolen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net> To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us> Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 12:05 PM Subject: RE: [Leica] Re: No digital comments? > So I take it then that all the blather about Tilley hats, single malt > Scotch, motorcycles, cars, women, cookware, fountain pens, watches, > etc. etc. etc. should also be taken to their respective lists? Damn! > What do you want here - three posts a day asking about a NOOKIE? > > Face it;there's just so much to say about a single brand of camera - > and all of it has been said here about 10-to-the-1000th time! :-) > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us > [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of Ted > Bayer > Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 2:55 PM > To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us > Subject: Re: [Leica] Re: No digital comments? > > > Now I think we are getting down to the bottom line on this thing. > > I totally agree with Mark, David, Jerry, Karen, Tina, Michael, et al - > talk all you want about Leica and Leica related cameras and lenses, > film and/or digital - show all the pictures you want if they are taken > with that kind of equipment. That is what a Leica list is about. > > Take the rest of the stuff to their related lists. > > Ted > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David Young" <dnr@horizon.bc.ca> > To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us> > Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 11:22 AM > Subject: [Leica] Re: No digital comments? > > > > Tina wrote: > > > > >Can we talk about digital if we are using Leica lenses? > > > > Absitively and Posilutely! :) > > > > I don't think there's anything wrong with digital being > > discussed/shown here... providing it has some Leica connection. > > > > A 10D w/Leica glass would do it! :) > > ---------- > > > > David Young, | égalité, liberté, > > Victoria, CANADA | fraternité et Beaujolais. > > > > Website at: www.horizon.bc.ca/~dnr > > > > -- > > To unsubscribe, see > > http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html > > > > > -- > To unsubscribe, see > http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html > > -- > To unsubscribe, see > http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html > - -- To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html - -- To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html