Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2003/08/13
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Hi everybody, This is only a dream: I was thinking about that, but lack some reflexions and details, so I post this dream and if someone has any idea, it's welcome. Ok, so, I was dreaming of a full scale digital back for leica M. The CCD would be kept in place in an interchangeable back, very similar to the current back. Maybe there would be enough surface to have a little TFT on its back to choose functiuns, look the picture to control (not to compose, the cloth shutter would work as usual). Electronic could be put in place of the film can, and in an attached piece, the same size of a Leicavit, containing also batteries and maybe flashcard (here, I don't know if there is a flash memory card tiny enough to go anywhere in a leicavit volume, and as I dream it, I don't want to have the digital back protruding too much, so, no flash card insert slot on the digital back itself). Contact between the CCD back and the bottom part is something easy, as there is an overlapping zone at the bottom of the back (same contacts as the one you can find between an SLR body and its back (R8 for example). One could also have an intelligent use of the rewind knob/lever, as a turning pad, like the 2 selectors on an F5 for example (under the index and thumb), to rock between options of the digital part. The digital back should also have a sensor placed near the first film advance cylinder, in order to be informed to prepare itself to take another picture. I know full frame (24x36) are sensible to the incident angle of the light, but couldn't this be corrected by the means of a special micro-fresnel/catadioptric device placed just before de CCD, protecting it also. All this seems to be possible, but I don't know how a picture is actually taken from the CCD. I think the "take the picture NOW" instruction is given to the CCD when the shooter is pushing the trigger. In this case, the trigger is not actuating any electronics, aside the light cell, and I don't see how this triggering info could be given to the digital back. So I was thinking, and this is where I was wondering: Is a CCD able to detect by itself when to take the picture, assuming all the time it receives no light (the shutter of the M being closed), and suddenly, the shutter opens, and the CCD gives the picture (the record of all the light received). Is such a behaviour electronically possible? So: to have a CCD in a waiting proccess, and having the digital picture recorded when the light falls on the CCD. In fact, I'm quite ennoyed because I don't know how exactly a digital camera is taking a picture, is there a mechanical shutter, how is the ISO factor managed, how is the shutter speed done and so on. So, If someone has info about that, I would like to have more info to conceptualize more this. This design have a lot of advantages despite a first quite cumbersome aspect: - -you have a Leica M? Fine, you have the choice of film or digital media, having the huge advantage of using your M lenses for both - -the device is in three parts: 1-the interchangeable back, with sensors for the "advance of the film" info if required by the electronic (maybe two versions, one cheaper without TFT screen, another with) 2-the false film can, connected by contacts to the base third part, and to the rewind knob of the camera as a rocking mollet, and maybe to the digital back, but I should have a look if this is technically possible, but maybe these contacts could be relayed trough the bottom part to the digital back 3-the leicavit size bottom part, with batteries, flash memory, and or flash memory card slot, usb or firewire port, stuff like that. This part will attach to the M body the same way as the current bottom plate/motor/leicavit, and will have contacts for the false film can part, and for digital back part. the enormous advantage is the modularity, you can have the digital back separately, when a CCD upgrade is available, you can have the false film can part separately, for software upgrade, you can have separate bottom part for other batteries / memory capacity. In case of one part failure, the diagnostic and SAV (in french Service après vente) is easier. - -you can continue to take picture the same way, exactly the same way, the camera has the same dimension, practicaly the same size, and the same weight, you only have to play with the rewind knob and maybe some knobs on the back and bottom parts. Maybe the first versions would require to take picture in Bulb mode (let's say for one second opening), and the speed fixed electronically, a sort of aperture priority for every M body, nice, no? So, the only part I can't think of it is: Is it possible to have a CCD triggered itself by the light it recieves quickely enough to have the quickest speed (1/1000s) fixing an even exposed picture? Like a bias, no light, waiting/ light for less than 1/1000s, recording according to the ISO setting accumulating all the light entering or fixing the speed according to light intensity like a TTL flash cell. This is my dream, nothing else, why O why haven't I made a Master in electronic ingeneering in place of my PHD thesis in climatology? Best Gregoire Vandenschrick - -- To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html