Re: [Leica] M7 vs M3 "lag time" -- How can we find out somerealnumbers?

[Alastair Firkin <firkin@ncable.net.au>]

Ted, even a numbskull like me notices shutter lag now. Perhaps you have 
built in the compensation, perhaps using Leica, you did not have to 
worry too much about it, BUT with my new digital camera and with my new 
ATL ultrasound machine, shutter lag is a pain. Push the button and hope 
the camera will freeze the action before it changes.

Cheers
On Wednesday, Aug 6, 2003, at 22:29 Australia/Melbourne, Ted Grant 
wrote:

> Mike Quinn explained:
>>>> It's the same with choices of camera gear. The differences in lag 
>>>> times
> are
>> important. You can ignore them and still make good pictures, but 
>> knowing
>> that some gear takes a long time to record the image affects the way 
>> that
>> you work and the results that you get.<<<
>
> Hi Mike,
> But I never knew any of this stuff until it started to appear on the 
> LUG. In
> my life as a photojournalist I've not ever related to these kinds of 
> things
> and I've either been the luckiest shooter in the world in not knowing 
> it and
> yet capturing some very compelling moments in sports, wild life and 
> people.
>
> So reading about it and obviously it appears it's a big deal for some 
> folks,
> I just can't fathom what the heck the big deal is knowing it.
>
> I understand what Doug Herr said when he explained about the effect of 
> LAG
> in the type of photography he's a master at. But if one never knew that
> "release lag existed" and still captured award winning moments does it 
> make
> any difference knowing it or not knowing it?
>
>> Well Ted, you're lucky that shutter lag has never lost you an image in
> your
>> long and rewarding career. (Luck is an extremely useful photographic
>> accessory). <<<<
>
> I suppose so, but it's always been my understanding that "one makes 
> their
> own luck." What ever that means.
>
>> But could you have built the equipment you used for the last 52 years?
>> The people who did build it were concerned about the "number 
>> stuff".<<<
>
> That's true but we're not designing  /building cameras, we're using 
> them to
> take photographs. I realize what you're saying and I'd be curious 
> about lag
> and mirror return and all that kind of stuff if I were building a 
> camera.
> However, that isn't what we're talking about.
>
> I suppose my point is, that not knowing this information and have the
> successful career I do, does it really make such a big deal that some 
> folks
> make of it?
>
> Excluding Doug Herr because I know exactly what he means in his work. 
> But
> photographing people in photojournalism coverage of disasters, war and 
> the
> likes of every day living and dying? Does it make any difference and 
> is it
> so important to know that one must know it, to be a successful 
> photographer?
>
>> Still, I think you'd agree that the time difference is important to
> someone
>> trying to decide whether to use a brush or a camera.<<<
>
> Possibly so, but I think it's far more important to have the "feeling 
> in
> your gut" to capture a motivational moment than knowing the
> multi-milli-second of a lagtime.
>
> ted
>
>
>
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Alastair

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