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Subject: RE: [Leica] Equipment getting really cheap
From: "bdcolen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net>
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 16:32:21 -0400
 
Not at all, Gene - I'm saying that that very availability is one of the
things driving down the prices of used M equipment...people abandoning
their 2s-3s-4s and 6s for the 7...

B. D.

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B. D.

Are you saying the M7 is not readily available?  Every dealer I have
checked (Granted I have not checked with them all) have them in stock
and ready to ship.  I guess I'm not sure what you are saying...

Gene



 

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Jim - I can certainly understand your not liking the digital results, or
preferring shooting with the M; I have trouble, however, you're 'not
getting' the decline in M prices.

First, as I said, the economy has taken a real dive; second, the M7's
availability - with the AE most younger photographers now take for
granted; and the digital onslaught have all come together to hammer all
film camera prices.

We may love the M - but face it; by current standards it is an obsolete
curio - a throw back to an earlier age of mechanical rangefinder film
cameras. The number of folks who use Ms is very limited to begin with.
But most of those who use Ms are hobbyists, many of whom are attracted
to the perceived advantages of digital.

So M prices take a dive.

B. D.

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[mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of Jim Laurel
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 2:35 PM
To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
Subject: Re: [Leica] Equipment getting really cheap


I can understand why Nikon and Canon film bodies are taking a dive and
that some people are jumping off the R ship, disappointed with Leica's
digital R announcement.

But I find drops in M prices a little puzzling.  There is no digital
product on the market that fills the market niche of the M cameras.
Nothing close. One day sensor technology will advance to the point where
it is possible to mount to build a digital body that will mount M
lenses.

I have been playing with an EOS 10D for a few weeks now.  I just
replaced my 17-35 to the 16-35, as the former lens' deficiencies became
all too apparent on the digital body.  The 16-35 is a little better, but
they are both mediocre.  I can't understand why these two lenses have
become so popular. Convenience, I guess.  That seems to be what is
valued most today.

- --Jim

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