Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2003/07/10

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Subject: Re: [Leica] Opinions Please 135mm lens for M
From: "SML" <leirex@access4less.net>
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 20:06:25 -0700
References: <3.0.2.32.20030709231531.01086a14@pop.infionline.net> <3.0.2.32.20030710223348.010826f4@pop.infionline.net>

Wow!  It is my first time to hear about superiority of the 135 Elmar over
the 135 Tele-Elmar.  I guess I am still learning.  I'd better get an Elmar
to see for myself compared with the Tele-Elmar.

Regards,
David

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From: "Marc James Small" <msmall@infionline.net>
To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 7:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Leica] Opinions Please 135mm lens for M


At 09:00 PM 7/9/03 -0700, SML wrote:
>Hello Marc,
>
>  Are you sure of what you were saying about the 135/4 Elmar being superior
>to the 135/4 Tele-Elmar?  I do not remember any single one user comments
>about the Elmar being superior to the Tele-Elmar.  I am wondering if you
>meant the other way around.


I really hate to toss the word "superior" around without a referent.

It has been my experience, and that of many other users and analysts, that
the 4/135 Elmar is optically superior to the compressed Tele's which
followed it in production.  Any time you compromise an optical axis, there
are compromises to make, and the Tele-Elmar designs are not as satisfactory
on all points as is the Elmar.  Leitz seems to have been quite affronted by
Bertele's 4/13.5cm Sonnar, which was a true telephoto and which blew the
Hektor into the weeds.

To make this clearer, remember that the Hektor and Elmar were not
telephotos:  that is, they were exactly 13.5cm long.  When Leitz decided on
the Tele-Elmar, they condensed the length, and thus compromised quality.

Marc

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In reply to: Message from Marc James Small <msmall@infionline.net> (Re: [Leica] Opinions Please 135mm lens for M)
Message from Marc James Small <msmall@infionline.net> (Re: [Leica] Opinions Please 135mm lens for M)