Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2003/07/10
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]I indulge in amateur culinary history so this business about "hard-boiled" interested me. Now that I'm in the office, I pulled vol. VI of the Oxford English Dictionary off the shelf and note that it finds the first use of "hard boiled" as an adjective to describe the degree of doneness of an egg in J. Nott's -Cooks & Confectioners Dictionary-, published in 1723, with many following citations of English culinary texts. To my surprise, Mark Twain appears to have been the first to employ the phrase as a verb, in 1895, where doubtless D.H. Lawrence encountered it, for he uses it thusly in 1930. I am perfectly well aware of the deficiencies of the OED in regard to etymologies and first usages (in fact, a footnote in one of my published articles corrects its identification of the first use of "cosmopolitan" in English. I suggest that this is an "Atlantic-English" usage, with regional variations throughout the US. There is no entry in the OED for "hard cooked." Chandos Chandos Michael Brown History and American Studies College of William and Mary www.wm.edu/cas/asp/faculty/brown - -----Original Message----- From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of Martin Howard Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 1:00 PM To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us Subject: Re: [Leica] Re: Ireland suggestions Marc James Small wrote: > Steve Unsworth wrote: >> Well once again sorry to disappoint, but in my part of the UK at >> least 'hard >> boiled' is 'hard boiled'. I have _never_ heard the phrase 'hard >> cooked'. > > How many citations to British, Irish, and Scottish cookery books do > you wish? Right. I'm sure that umpteen cookery book citations from an American in the US will convince Steve, who is LIVING in the UK -- or the rest of us for that matter -- what the correct British English phrase is. Jeez. M. - -- To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html - -- To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html