Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2003/07/06
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]why not go with the ultrachrome B&W inks from MIS....? They look like the cat's meow right now :-) > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us > [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us]On Behalf Of Phong > Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2003 4:55 PM > To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us > Subject: RE: [Leica] Re: Piezotone & bwguys > > > BenMarks, Will, Gilbert, Adam and others, > > Thank you for your replies. I also spent some time yesterday > checking out the Piezography newsgroup on yahoo, and am quite > underwhelmed. > > Gilbert's suggestion to use a 1280 instead of a > 3000 is a good one; I would have gone for a 3000 if the > technology is more stable, as I believe the 3000 is a more > solid printer. The 1280 would serve my purpose for now, > and at least allow me to try Piezography at a lower cost. > > I am unsure of what to do, and will probably wait for a while > until things get more settled. I do have a portrait project > this summer that I want to print with Piezography. > > Cheers, > > - Phong > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us > > [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us]On Behalf Of > > BenMarks@aol.com > > Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2003 4:59 PM > > To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us > > Subject: [Leica] Re: Piezotone & bwguys > > > > > > Phong: > > > > I am no expert on this but here is what I know: The Piezotone > > inks are Cone's "new and improved" inkset. You can choose a > > selenium hue or a neutral hue etc. Some folks who started out > > with the PiezophotographyBW inks and then switched to Piezotone > > had trouble with print heads clogging (and subsequent banding) > > because of the way that the two inksets reacted in a given > > printer's ink feed lines. Cone sells a set of carts filled with > > cleaning fluid to flush the lines of a printer when switching > > between the older inkset and the newer. > > > > As for why they continue to refer to the discontinued process, > > your guess is as good as mine. Maybe they are slow to update the > > site, or maybe as far as the software end of things goes > > (profiles and workarounds for the Epson drivers) it doesn't > > matter which inks you use. This is rank speculation as I am out > > of my league here. I happen to like the old inks, had been happy > > with my results and stocked up on the ink when it was deeply > > discounted by inkjetmall. Thus I have not had any problems > > associated with switching over (it ain't broke and I am trying > > not to fix it, if you know what I mean). > > > > Some users also were unhappy with the way that the old > > PiezophotographyBW inks "set" on certain papers. On the paper I > > use, prints warm over the first day or two and stabalize at a > > nice warm tone with good blacks (looks similar to platinum to my > > eye). Once the prints go through this process, my experience has > > been that the prints are very stable. I have prints hanging in > > my home, unmatted, behind glass which are going on two years old > > and which look great. Not so for the prints made with Epson's > > black ink. Fading was noticable after several months and some > > prints have degraded so much that they are just a waste of > > storage space. Note that Epson's inks are (as I beleive Tina > > mentioned) dye-based rather than pigment based. > > > > >I am trying to make sense of the situation with Piezography > > >now that the original company is split into inkjetmall.com > > >and bwguys.com, neither of whose website is particularly well > > >designed to provide information about their product offerings. > > > > >Inkjetmall claims that the new PiezoTone inks is not compatible > > >with the discontinued PiezographyBW inks, and yet contiune to > > >refer to PiezographyBW throuhgout their website. > > > > -- > > To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html > > > > -- > To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html > - -- To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html