Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2003/06/26
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]To get back on topic, if Leica can take advantage of similar software genius, then 10 MP will satisfy most users. The issue of wide angles will remain as the 15 mm will become a 21 something so no truly wide angle work would be available as a digital entity. However, if you needed to, then you could switch to film. Don dorysrus@mindspring.com - ----- Switch to film to get usage in the normal lens range? Oh, that makes sense - Here's your $4500 digital BACK so that you can shoot digital. But if you want to shoot at 21 mm, you have to sell your car and buy our 14-15, and if you want to shoot at 24, you have to - sell your car and buy our 14-15. Oh, and if you now have a 35-50-90, which is pretty common, you have to buy - naw, you can just use film. :-) - -----Original Message----- From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of Frank Farmer Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 2:01 PM To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us Subject: Re: Re: [Leica] Digital Back - I like the first step! SNIP "Also, Leica believe that 10MP is enough and the quality is there (well, it is if Kodak do a better job than they did on the 14n!)" I believe it was mentioned in the press conference that the chip in the 14n is not a Kodak chip. As a matter of fact, they mentioned that that was common knowledge. Ok, so I didn't know that. I did know that there were numerous complaints about that camera but I also thought that Kodak made the chip. Apparantly they did not. Hopefully, the "new" Kodak chip in the Modul R will not suffer the problems of its cousin in the 14n. Frank - -------Original Message------- From: Simon Lamb <simon@sclamb.com> Sent: 06/26/03 11:05 AM To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us Subject: Re: [Leica] Digital Back - I like the first step! > > SNIP Really, it sounded pretty good to me already and I'm sure they will do a good deal of refining and tweaking before it hits Photokina Frank You need to read the transcript. It has been categorically stated that the spec. will not change since the designs are finalised and the proejct estimated and costed. Also, Leica believe that 10MP is enough and the quality is there (well, it is if Kodak do a better job than they did on the 14n!) Simon - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Farmer" <frankandaubrey@mindspring.com> To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 5:09 PM Subject: Re: [Leica] Digital Back - I like the first step! > Greetings all, > > I also have to agree with Doug and Ed. For several reasons: > > First, I don't even own a R camera and only have one M6TTL. But the idea of being able to switch from a digital SLR to a film SLR is attactive to me. Mainly because I could use Leica glass, which I've come to know and love just as everyone else has, without limitation. I switched to the M from a sizeable Nikon system and have enjoyed the switch. However, I do, at times, miss using some of the features of my F100 . For that reason, I've been in the market (just snooping really) for a SLR to use for Macro work. Until now, I'd been considering Contax cameras for this purpose. However, with the intro of a digital back for the R8/9(whether I use it or not) Leica has made their SLR line more attractive to me because the option of going to a DSLR is there. Expensive, but there. > > Speaking of expensive, the argument about the cost of the back, coming from this group, is less than pursuading. Granted, we don't all have +/- $7,000.00 to drop on a camera and back, but come on folks - Leicas are EXPENSIVE! Even electronic ones. They always have been and will continue to be hence forth and forevermore. Too bad really. But a $200 rewind knob for the MP? I think they hit the reasonableness target much closer to the bull's eye on the Digital Modul R than on the Leicavit - M or the rewind crank. Now, I'm not saying that Leica should just charge the stratospheric prices willy nilly. I know they have costs and profits to worry about and they aren't a giant company with seeminly bottomless resources like Canon, for example. So, I understand - to a degree. > > Basically, my hopes mirror those of Ed. Mainly, that this is not actaully the finished product. Really, it sounded pretty good to me already and I'm sure they will do a good deal of refining and tweaking before it hits Photokina. But, I say "way to go Leica." It seems like they were sinking rapidly in the world of digital and while this will not put them in the lead in that market, it will sustain them, in my opinion, for the near future. It will also offer them a platform from which to expand both their digital and film SLR products without limiting either endeavour. What they do after that is up to them. Hopefully, they will continue to work on new products and new lenses for both R and M. These are just my ramblings. > > Let the flames begin . . . ;-) > > Frank > > -------Original Message------- > From: "caliguri@rcn.com" <caliguri@rcn.com> > Sent: 06/25/03 05:10 PM > To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us > Subject: [Leica] Digital Back - I like the first step! > > > > > Well - > I have to agree with Doug Herr - in essence, I don't think it will be the > same back you will be able to buy next september. I think it's more than > a starting point, but not a finished product. This is Leica's way of > saying ' Hey - we are on this - we won't abandon you R shooters who > want a digital back -- this is NOT a finished product, but it will be by > Photokina.' It may be very different by the time it hits the street . I > think it > will be. But I LOVE the idea - I'll dedicate a body to it! No one will be > switching backs in the heat of a sports shoot. SD cards will be the > same capacity as CF cards (if they stay with SD cards!), and a finder > screen masked off with a 'shaded' area would be great! Like the M, you > can see what's coming in and out of the frame. I'm glad they are not > just talking, but showing, what's developing behind the scenes. Then > again, they can't win can they? Tell us what's going on and show > products in the pipeline, and people complain - keep it secret, but just > say it's on the way, and people complain ; loose - loose situation for > Leica there. Meantime, film gets better and better as well! I'm pretty > happy about the whole ordeal. Looks like they have a good thing on it's > way! > Ed > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . > > > -- > To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html > > > -- > To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html > - -- To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html > - -- To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html - -- To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html - -- To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html