Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2003/06/21

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Subject: Re: [Leica] HCB Did It All First
From: Slobodan Dimitrov <sld@earthlink.net>
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 15:58:32 -0700
References: <20030621212424.30629.qmail@web10506.mail.yahoo.com>

Well, when it comes to HCB's personality, there's no point of even discussing_that_subject!
Slobodan Dimitrov

Patrick Jelliffe wrote:
> 
> Slobodan,
> 
> The problem is that your opinion is DIFFERENT than the
> accepted adulation of HCB, (Horrors!), and especially,
> that you should articulate that opinion on this forum.
>    The fact that the debate slid quickly into a
> personal attack is most unfortunate, considering your
> commentary was about HCB's WORK, not his person, nor
> that of the original poster of the thread.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Patrick
> 
> --- Slobodan Dimitrov <sld@earthlink.net> wrote:
> > Obviously I'm not shallow enough, as I don't
> > _see_the underlying message
> > that you claim is in the work. The flip side of this
> > could be whether
> > the work is that easily accessible that any one can
> > tap into its
> > brilliant message, and I'm just a lost blinded soul
> > buffeted on a
> > desolate tundra, ever locked in my unimaginative
> > prison.
> > If anything, his work strikes me as a well
> > articulated snapshots. Last
> > semester, I showed my students his book on photo
> > portraiture. We flipped
> > through the pages one at a time. Then, I flipped
> > through the pages like
> > one would through a carton flip book, to show the
> > sameness throughout
> > the work. I'm sure someone else would see it as a
> > stylistic continuity,
> > and I won't argue with that.
> > But really Buzz, this physiological state of arousal
> > of yours is
> > somewhat unseemly, over what is just another guy's
> > work earning a living
> > with his camera.
> > Slobodan Dimitrov
> >
> >
> > Buzz Hausner wrote:
> > >
> > > Slobodan, your hubris is absolutely breathtaking.
> > I for one can say
> > > that you have missed much in Cartier-Bresson's
> > "presentation, style,
> > > content, analysis, whatever..." or else I have to
> > assume that your
> > > ability to see is severely limited.  Another
> > possibility is that you
> > > enjoy taking stands which you know to be
> > provocative, but it seems to be
> > > in this case that deep down you are really very
> > shallow.
> > >
> > >         Buzz Hausner
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> > > [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us]
> > On Behalf Of Slobodan
> > > Dimitrov
> > > Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 9:16 PM
> > > To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> > > Subject: Re: [Leica] HCB Did It All First
> > >
> > > I wouldn't go so far that he originated the visual
> > syntax for 35mm. I
> > > think a little jaunt down history's memory lane
> > could just show other
> > > wise. I look at a lot of work, in the original as
> > often as possible, and
> > > no I can't say that I missed much in his
> > presentation, style, content
> > > analysis, what ever....
> > > But then, this all rather subjective. For myself,
> > I get considerably
> > > more from being in the presence of the portraiture
> > of the Roman Republic
> > > than from HCB.
> > > Slobodan Dimitrov
> > >
> > > Buzz Hausner wrote:
> > > >
> > > > You have got to be joking, Slobodan!  What is in
> > the work of H.C.-B.
> > > is
> > > > the origination of the entire vocabulary of 35mm
> > photography!
> > > > Definitely NOT a one trick pony and I have to
> > think that anyone who
> > > > views the body of H.C.-B.'s work as such is
> > unable or unwilling to
> > > look
> > > > below the surface of what he sees!
> > > >
> > > >         Buzz
> > >
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In reply to: Message from Patrick Jelliffe <pbjbike@yahoo.com> (Re: [Leica] HCB Did It All First)