Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2003/06/18

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Subject: Re: [Leica] Kodak stock is down(way down!) this morning.
From: "animal" <s.jessurun95@chello.nl>
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 02:57:07 +0200
References: <007001c335d3$00ddbfd0$430110ac@ccasony01> <003101c335ee$ac507b30$388a8418@symkeehx5nw8g8> <3EF1033F.9070700@csdco.com>

382 mb?so with scanning negs you get still larger files.that would mean
resolution is still less doesn,t it?
simon

- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Nebel" <nebel@csdco.com>
To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 2:26 AM
Subject: Re: [Leica] Kodak stock is down(way down!) this morning.


> Simon,
>
> It's pretty amazing.  I've been using a Sinarback 44 for about a year
> and can attest to it.  Just pulled up a raw 382 mb image with their
> captureshop program and it does look like more than 11 stops, however, I
> have been using the camera with static subjects in 16-exposure mode for
> the maximum resolution and color depth.
>
> As you have probably seen with Sinar's other equipment, their literature
> is pretty straightforward - what it says is what the equipment does.  It
> doesn't say that multiple shots are a requirement for 11 stops, I think
> that would take it well over 11.
>
> The Sinar rep stopped by a few weeks ago and helped with some problems,
> solved with software, and quietly pitched their newest, the Sinarback 54
> which has upgraded anti-blooming and improved dyes on the sensor.  Sinar
> paid Kodak for the R&D and got exclusive rights on the chip for a year.
>
> Sinar's Captureshop software is really well thought through.
>
> It looks like the firewire backs, 43 and 54, can be used with a
> hand-held camera, Sinar M, which will accept Leica lenses.
>
> One does need a calibrated monitor, plenty of RAM, a lot of disk space,
> and a good data backup strategy to deal with these things.  Multiplying
> by 382mb gives some interesting requirements.
>
> John
>
> animal wrote:
> > Now that prices are falling i,m getting an upgraded Sinar.
> > In one of their latest brochures they were comparing cooled sensors
versus
> > film.They stated that the latest of their backs has a contrast range of
11
> > stops.Is that true?
> > simon
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "bdcolen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net>
> > To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 9:51 PM
> > Subject: RE: [Leica] Kodak stock is down(way down!) this morning.
> >
> >
> >
> >>Good God, Steve, is there something you haven't told us about your
> >>health? :-)
> >>
> >>I'd be interested in knowing how many professionals - facts please, as
> >>Austin might ask - have made a real switch from film to digital, as
> >>opposed to buying a p&s and not liking it - and have then switched back
> >>to film. And then I wonder what proportion of what fraction of one
> >>percent they are of all those who have switched to digital.
> >>
> >>I am not saying, Steve, that you or anyone else who doesn't want to
> >>should make the switch- I'm still primarily shooting film myself. But I
> >>think it's quite unrealistic to refer to digital as "all the talk," as
> >>though digital was the photographic equivalent of the 8-track fad. Still
> >>photography is going digital, and it is going digital with astounding
> >>speed. Sure, there will undoubtedly be film around as long as you or I
> >>are alive - but it will be a curiosity, not the photographic standard.
> >>And I'd be willing to bet that it will not be the photographic standard
> >>five short years from now.
> >>
> >>B. D.
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> >>[mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of Steve
> >>LeHuray
> >>Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 3:06 PM
> >>To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> >>Subject: Re: [Leica] Kodak stock is down(way down!) this morning.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>I don't know if film is "outta here," but I find it both fascinating
> >>>and telling that Kodak is advertising a disposable film camera on t.v.
> >>
> >>>in a commercial telling people that they can use it to get "digital
> >>>pictures." And ads for the camera stress that it produces high quality
> >>
> >>>digital images.
> >>>
> >>>B. D.
> >>>
> >>
> >>...I seriously doubt that film is "outta here." Kodak has always had a
> >>history of joining in with new technologies. Certainly they are deeply
> >>committed to film as it is their core business but they are smart to
> >>explore digital. I remember 20+ years ago all the howls from the motion
> >>picture film folks as Kodak started to sell VHS video tape (they only
> >>sold somebody else's tape under the Kodak logo). While digital is all
> >>the talk it is interesting to see (on the various lists I subscribe to)
> >>the number of people who have switched over to digital, and then see
> >>many of them announce they are moving back to film. Someday it will be a
> >>completely digital world, but not in my lifetime.
> >>
> >>sl
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Replies: Reply from John Nebel <nebel@csdco.com> (Re: [Leica] Kodak stock is down(way down!) this morning.)
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Message from "animal" <s.jessurun95@chello.nl> (Re: [Leica] Kodak stock is down(way down!) this morning.)
Message from John Nebel <nebel@csdco.com> (Re: [Leica] Kodak stock is down(way down!) this morning.)