Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2003/06/16

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Subject: Re: [Leica] Leica MP flare supression
From: Ernest Nitka <enitka@twcny.rr.com>
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 10:59:28 -0400

Actually a second piece is over the wallet - to prevent any sudden 
purchases :)

ernie
On Monday, June 16, 2003, at 10:37 AM, bdcolen wrote:

> The tape is on the ridged finder window?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of SonC
> (Sonny Carter)
> Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 10:07 AM
> To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Leica MP flare supression
>
>
> Grégoire
>     Saturday night,  I was playing with my M6, and decided to see when
> and where flare occurred.  I peeled off the scotch magic tape  from the
> rangefinder window that suppresses the phenomenon, and pointed the
> camera at a light just beside my chair.
>
> I found that as long as my eye was centered, that is, I could see all 
> of
> the framelines, I got no flare at all.  When I  held the camera in a
> fashion that obscured a frameline, right or left, I could get some
> flare.
>
> I'm glad that the MP addresses this problem. I am also glad that a half
> inch piece of scotch tape also addresses the problem.
>
> Sonny
> http://www.sonc.com
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Grégoire Vandenschrick" <vandenschrick@geog.ucl.ac.be>
> To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
> Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 8:54 AM
> Subject: [Leica] Leica MP flare supression
>
>
>> Just a fact, if some of you are interested:
>>
>> there was the Laica days at the Photo Alpha Shop here in Brussels
> the 12 13
>> and 14 of june.
>>
>> At this occasion, I had the opportunity to try everuthing from
> Leica.
>>
>> I searched with my Leica M6 TTL a very flare prone situation, and
> compared
>> the M6 TTL with the MP.
>> The result is quite amazing, where you cannot do anything with the
> TTL, the
>> MP is cristal clear.
>>
>> The flare in the TTL is more present when the eye is off axis, wich
> is
>> happening very often as I wear glasses (my eye is more distant to
> the
>> viewfinder, hence the error placement is more sensible). I also
> noticed
>> while studying the phenomenon that looked at some distance (let's
> say 20 cm)
>> and having the eye at infinity, the flare has a hollow circle shape,
> in wich
>> you can still see the image through the right little window, the
> outer
>> circle beeing white out. I could find the same white out flare in
> the MP
>> telemeter window, but only in pushing the eye to the most decentered
>> position you can have in the viewfinder, surely not a normal
> position, even
>> a little usual decentered position for a glasses wearing one.
>>
>> So my experience is that the MP is far better regarding the flare
> problem
>> than the M6 TTL and M7.
>>
>> I could also observe that the direct reflexions in the windows of
> the
>> viewfinder seen from the face of the camera is blueish for the MP
> and the M7
>> present at the demo, different than the normal colored reflexion of
> the M6
>> TTL windows. I don't know what's the difference this coating is
> giving.
>>
>> I more and more think of buying one day an MP, in place of an M7,
> for this
>> advantage, and also for the appeal added by the different retro
> buttons (I'm
>> that kind sensible to this, more than to an open priority program, I
> managed
>> it well with the M6 TTL)
>>
>> If you had experience,similar or different, I'm interested
>>
>> Grégoire Vandenschrick
>>
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