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Subject: Re: [Leica] Unscrewing your screw mount lens to get closer...
From: Jerry Lehrer <jerryleh@pacbell.net>
Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 09:44:39 -0700
References: <5.2.0.9.0.20030526023841.03023ec0@192.168.100.11> <3ED1F0D1.7DB38A67@transbay.net>

Rich

Thank you for the reference link!  I have used Leicas since 1946 an
I still found almost all of his observances are spot on!

I wish that all Leicaphiles would read all of that.

Thanks again
Jerry

tripspud wrote:

> Hi!
>
>        I just run across something new (to me) from:
>
> http://208.218.135.74/photography/photo35.html
>
>      and pasted below.   Interesting, because I have the Canon 35/2 which
> was used to work out the equation.  Though other lenses work as well.
> This is about unscrewing your screw mount lenses slightly, to gain more
> close focusing.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Rich Lahrson
> Berkeley, California
> tripspud@transbay.net
>
> Breaking the 1 meter barrier.
>
> This only works for LTM lenses. The LTM thread is 26/inch or 0.9769 mm. (That's
> an English Whitworth measure! Barnack
> apparently wished to confound non-Leitz manufacturers would might make the
> threads with a 1mm pitch and therefore never
> quite fit the Leica correctly...)
>
> Anyway, using the thin lens equation, you can usually unscrew the lens by up to
> 2 threads to focus a little closer. The equation:
>
> 1/Obj + 1/Imj = 1/Fl.
>
>         Obj = distance between the lens and the object being imaged.
>         Imj = distance between the lens and the image.
>         Fl = Focal length of the lens.
>
> For example, my Canon 35mm f/2 lens focuses to 1 meter. How much closer can I
> go?
> Solve for the image distance:
> 1/Img = 1/Fl - 1/Obj.
> Substitute the real values:
> 1/Img = 1/35 - 1/1000 = 0.02757...
>         so Img = 36.26. The lens only moves 1.27mm in its entire range!
> Now we can find out how much closer unscrewing a thread gives us:
> The Img distance will be 1.27mm + 0.977mm = 37.246mm
>
> Now solve for the object distance:
> 1/Obj = 1/Fl - 1/Img.
> Substitute the real values:
> 1/Obj = 1/35 - 1/37.246 = 0.001723.
> so Obj = 580mm, which really extends your range.
>
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In reply to: Message from "Richard F. Man" <richard@imagecraft.com> ([Leica] re: Low light, Noctilux and Color film)
Message from tripspud <tripspud@transbay.net> ([Leica] Unscrewing your screw mount lens to get closer...)