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Subject: Re: Some Perspective...was .Re: [Leica] M6 viewfinder upgrade
From: Jerry Lehrer <jerryleh@pacbell.net>
Date: Sat, 03 May 2003 07:52:57 -0700
References: <000801c31182$3fa9f730$0316fea9@ccasony01>

LUGers

Please allow me to take the time to completely agree with BD, though
I have been using Leicas "only" since 1946.

Jerry

bdcolen wrote:

> Good for you, Gary, I'm glad you're content. And if you ran the list, I
> guess I might consider your advice and unsubscribe. But since you
> don't...
>
> I've been shooting since the early 60's - not that I know what you're
> comment about how long you've been shooting had to do with anything ;-)
> - I have shot with M2s, M3s, M4ps and M4-2s, and now M6s and M6TTls-  I
> too used a Contax G1 for a while and though it has terrific glass,
> didn't like the fact that it is basically a P&S with interchangeable
> lenses. I now depend upon my M6s and M6TTLs to earn part of my living.
> They are my TOOLS. I have NO emotional investment in them or in Leica as
> a company. I think the glass is terrific, and I like using rangefinders.
> However - I find that the flare problem occasionally costs me images.
> And that is GD inexcusable in a $2000-just-for-the-body camera. It is
> particularly inexcusable to have Leica turn around and finally, after
> what, 20 years, find a fix for the problem that they created - as the
> problem doesn't exist in the M2s and M3s, and charge as much to fix it
> as one might pay for a user M2 or M3 - or for that matter an M4-2 or
> M4p.
>
> Does that make me a "malcontent?" No, it makes me a pissed off consumer.
>
> B. D.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of Gary
> Williams
> Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2003 1:27 AM
> To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> Subject: Some Perspective...was .Re: [Leica] M6 viewfinder upgrade
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <DennisKT5D@aol.com>
> To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
> Sent: Friday, May 02, 2003 11:29 PM
> Subject: Re: [Leica] M6 viewfinder upgrade
>
> >   B. D. is absolutely right. Ignore an obvious problem, limit the
> > fixable cameras, and CHARGE you for the fix to boot. One more reason
> > (among
> several)
> > not to buy Leica.
>
> B.D., Dennis and other malcontents
>
> If you guys don't like Leica you can unsubscribe from the list and save
> the rest of us from your whining.  I for one do not seek perfection or
> nirvana or whatever it is that you don't seem to be able to get from
> owning and using the gear and belonging to the list.  Intelligent
> dialogue and disagreement are one thing, but my index finger gets stiff
> sometimes from deleting your negative and insipid emails.
>
> I have been shooting since the late 1970's, mostly Contax SLR, and after
> a brief and frustrating flirtation last year with a Contax G2 (now
> that's a piece of tricked up electronic nonsense to complain about, you
> call that thing a rangefinder, what a waste of wonderful Zeiss glass) I
> am delighted with my M7, M2 and handful of Leica lenses, 21mm CV, 24mm
> ASPH, 35mm ASPH,
> 90mm Elmarit.   I have the highly portable, unobtrusive, intelligent,
> low
> light shooting friendly system I have been looking for since I started
> in this game back in the 1970's.  Yea, Leica costs an arm and a leg,
> which created a real obstacle to ownership for me until I reached my
> 40's. On the cost of ownership perhaps we all have a complaint. But if
> you spent a little more time examining your motives and your desires,
> and a little less time complaining maybe you could figure out where it
> is that you really want to be with this stuff.  For most of us on the
> list it's a hobby or passion to pursue and to enjoy and not a vocation
> to constantly fret about.
>
> Gary
>
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