Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2003/04/17
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Yes, that's true, but this professor, the tyrant, had a special disdain for anything having to do with the zone system, and he hated Ansel Adams! So I never learned about the zone system until much later. Of course, this fellow wouldn't even let us use anything but the balsa wood pinhole cameras that he made us build ourselves, so it's a wonder I ever learned to use a camera at all. It took many years of recovery to get over being a phtography major with that man. I wonder if anyone else on the LUG was subjected to his abuses? It is a small world! Kit - -----Original Message----- From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us]On Behalf Of bdcolen Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 1:49 PM To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us Subject: RE: [Leica] metereless Unless you park it in another "Zone." :-) - -----Original Message----- From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of Kit McChesney | acmefoto Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 3:36 PM To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us Subject: RE: [Leica] metereless Jerry-- So true. When I was in college, my photo professor, who was an absolute tyrant, did teach us about light meters; he made everyone buy a Weston Euromaster and a Kodak Gray Card. We had to carry that bloomin' gray card with us everywhere we went, and he always made us meter off the card. I remember he said, "whatever it is that you measure with that meter will be middle gray in your picture." Most everything else he tried to hammer into our heads I tried desperately to forget, but what a light meter does wasn't one of them. I always remembered that whatever you meter in the scene will be middle gray in your picture. Kit - -----Original Message----- From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us]On Behalf Of Jerry Lehrer Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 11:53 AM To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us Subject: Re: [Leica] metereless Steve If you start willy nilly compensating for light or dark subjects, you start to lose control. Read about the Zone System, understand it, and use a spot meter. Jerry Steve Unsworth wrote: > Jerry > > I don't think so. A reflective light meter averages everything to > approx 18% > grey doesn't it? :-) > > An incident meter measures the light falling on an object and the > object itself 'controls' how much of that light is reflected back to > the photographer. Black objects reflect, well, not a lot so they > appear dark; white objects reflect more so they appear lighter. > > Of course I could be totally wrong (not for the first _or_ last time > ;-) > > Steve > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us > [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of Jerry > Lehrer > Sent: 17 April 2003 18:41 > To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us > Subject: Re: [Leica] metereless > > Steve > > I have a feeling that you are confusing an incident light meter with a > reflected light meter. > > Jerry > > Steve Unsworth wrote: > > > Don't think so, you're measuring the light that's falling onto an > > object, not the light reflected from it. A black object will appear > > black because it absorbs more of the light that's falling onto it > > than a white object. > > > > Steve > > -- > To unsubscribe, see > http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html - -- To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html - -- To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html - -- To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html - -- To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html