Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2003/04/03
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Absolutely Henry. But suppose the photographer in question had shot the empty road, shot a naked girl running, and then sandwiched the negative to create the iconic image, rationalizing what he did by saying, 'well, I know this has happened hundreds of times, but my Leica was never loaded and ready." THAT's what we're talking about here. If a photographer wants to create a 'phototorial,' or a photo illustration, fine. Just label it as such. Best B. D. ith you in looking at this issue from a professional's ethical position. However, what I'm trying to say is, even genuine news pictures can portray a very different reality. We have seen it before i.e., a nude Vietnamese girl running away from a battle scene with such trauma, that the image changed the world's perception of the Vietnam war forever. Now in reality, how many of these instances of a nude girl scenario actually took place. The photographer was lucky in bagging a "once in a lifetime picture" and believe me, there would perhaps be hundreds of images more dramatic than the nude girl's that escaped the camera's lens. - --- bdcolen <bdcolen@earthlink.net> wrote: > What we're talking about here Henry, is not whether > photos are used for > propaganda purposes, not whether photos "lie" or > tell some kind of > objective "truth." What we are discussing is whether > we should be able > to trust that what we see in the newspaper or > magazine is all, or a > portion of the photo which the photographer actually > took - a single > exposure of film or pixels. > > B. D. > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us > [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On > Behalf Of Henry Ting > Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 4:15 AM > To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us > Subject: Re: [Leica] fired for photoshopping > > > Jounalism pictorials were used ever since > photography > was invented for publicity and "propaganda". I'm not > saying a picture does not lie or whether it portrays > reality, but stating a pictorial content should > represent the absolute truth is kind of stretching > it. > Just like our TV newscast. I wouldn't trust heresay > a > 100% either. > --- GeeBee <graham@geebeespaw.freeserve.co.uk> > wrote: > > I accept "spin" as a reality in just about > > everything I read in the > > newspapers, isn't that "ProseShopping". If the LA > > Times guy had > > "PhotoShopped" a herd of elephants in and the > > picture was run under a > > headline "Hannibal Hussein moves the 43rd > Pachyderm > > Regiment to the front" > > that would obviously be unacceptable but it seems > a > > little unfair to me to > > expect such high standards from press > photographers. Particularly when > > > large sections of those that disseminate the news > seem, to > > me at any rate, exempt > > from such high ideals for a lot of the time. > > > > --Graham > > > > > > > > From: "Slobodan Dimitrov" <sld@earthlink.net> > > To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us> > > Sent: 03 April 2003 07:50 > > Subject: Re: [Leica] fired for photoshopping > > > > > > > Sometime ago, a publisher of the LA Times, > stated > > that it's the paper's > > > duty to be engaged in social engineering. I got > > the impression that > > > anything was permissible under that declaration. > > > Slobodan Dimitrov > > > > > > Frank Filippone wrote: > > > > > > > > And what do you read in a newspaper or see in > > paid advertising that is > > 100% > > > > truth? Why should photography be the only > 100% > > truth? > > > > > > > > Apropos the comment about a Pulitzer for > > unmanipulated images... are you > > > > sure there has never been any darkroom "magic" > > done to improve a > > Pulitzer > > > > winning picture? It is only the amount of > that > > manipulation that seem > > to > > > > bother people. > > > > > > > > It is all perception. > > > > > > > > Frank Filippone > > > > red735i@earthlink.net > > > > > > > > -- > > > > To unsubscribe, see > > > http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html > > > -- > > > To unsubscribe, see > > > http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > To unsubscribe, see > http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html > > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, > and more > http://tax.yahoo.com > -- > To unsubscribe, see > http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html > > -- > To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more http://tax.yahoo.com - -- To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html - -- To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html